In this episode, Bill and Marty continue their conversation about divinity, Self, and what it means to follow an inner compass. Bill shares how his Catholic upbringing, sobriety, AA, spiritual reading, and The Urantia Book shaped his relationship with God. Marty brings in his own path through church, agnosticism, and a powerful experience with an Indian guru. Together, they explore Self as something human, divine, or perhaps beyond both, and close with a practical way to live from higher values, true north, and the guidance found in discomfort.

Chapters:

00:00 Doubt And True North
00:51 Self And Divinity Debate
03:31 Catholic Childhood Skepticism
05:05 Leaving Church Behind
07:20 AA And Higher Power Struggle
08:25 Christ In You Breakthrough
10:37 Christmas Sign And Coincidence
14:06 Books And Spiritual Seeking
16:25 Urantia Book Awakening
20:49 Seeing Life As Divine
24:52 Love As Evolution
26:40 Faith and Science Upbringing
27:21 Agnostic Phase in College
27:48 Meeting an Enlightened Guru
28:19 Lightning Bolt Awakening
30:09 Bhagavad Gita Parallel
31:26 Divya Diksha Explained
32:28 Ad Break Guidebook
32:50 Seeking Enlightenment and Fear
34:55 Smallness and Saint Thérèse
37:03 Living Christian Without Belief
40:20 Higher Power Within Values
42:11 Try It and Measure Results
43:52 Action Step Define Values
44:38 Freedom Without Wrath
46:56 True North Inner Compass
48:23 Calibrating Discomfort Signals
49:24 Closing Thanks and Takeaways

Links and Resources:

• True You Podcast Facebook Page -https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast

• True You Podcast Instagram Page -https://www.instagram.com/trueyou.podcast

• Internal Family Systems -https://ifs-institute.com/

• Compassionate Results Coaching -https://www.compassionateresultscoaching.com/

• Bill’s book, ‘Compassionate Results Guidebook’ - https://compassionateresultsguidebook.com

• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website -https://www.listeningisthekey.com/

• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ -https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO

• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ -https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd

• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions -https://www.partsworkpractice.com

• Contact Marty -[email protected]

• Contact Bill -[email protected]