Aaron talks with Lawrence Wilkerson, the former chief of staff to US Secretary of State Colin Powell. Wilkerson is also a retired US Army Colonel and currently Distinguished Adjunct Professor of Government and Public Policy at the College of William & Mary. This discussion was recorded around September 11th. We discussed his experiences related to the events of that anniversary along with other important issues. After that, Aaron is joined by the insightful and entertaining Hailey Rounsaville. The two of them discuss Lawrence Wilkerson’s recently departed former boss, Colin Powell and the media coverage around his death.