In this episode of Work Mom Says: Don’t Be an Idiot, we talk about what it’s like being a black American in the workplace. Our guests are Dominique Wilson, senior art director, coach and entrepreneur/founder of LoveUToo and Show and Tell Academy, and Ayana King, social media/content strategy coach, diversity educator, and entrepreneur/founder of Maximum Communications.

This conversation went deep, including answers to the questions: What kinds of concerns do black team members have that their white coworkers don’t have to think about? How does a black professional know when someone is an ally? What do melanin-challenged people who want to become better allies need to know and what should they do next? There’s so much more, too. Have a listen, then connect with Lori Jo Vest on LinkedIn (aka Work Mom) and tell us what you’d like us to talk about next.