Tania discusses “down shifting” with returning guest Graham MacLennan, a fellow lawyer, Chef and host of his Cheftimony Podcast. In this “Side Bar” episode, Tania and Graham discuss food and wine exploring on Sardinia, one of the world’s “blue zones” known for the longevity of its inhabitants. As Graham learned and observed during his recent trip, making pasta, eating well and enjoying wine are all part of the program.

With many people reducing their alcohol intake or taking “dry” breaks, Tania and Graham also discuss how we can still wine explore even when we’re not drinking it.

And for you foodies out there, Graham recommends some great local restaurants to visit should you find yourself in Piedmont (on the Italian mainland) and a pasta cooking school on Sardinia if you’re looking to get your hands dirty before sipping on a Vermentino.