While Jerry is off this week, Matt is joined by this week's co-host and artist Emily Mae Smith. In this episode, Matt and Emily play overrated, underrated, properly rated (1:22), circle back on the latest updates from the climate change protests (16:07), explore the legacy of the Old Masters amongst the next generation of artists and collectors (25:02), discuss Gerhard Richter's huge move to David Zwirner (34:50), and predict the effects a recession would have on the future of painting (45:51).

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