We discuss what life is like both pre and current pandemic and how the education/ coach system has adapted to a more online formatted approach to education. Mike explains the goals of coaching so well that the sport that is being coached begins to be less relevant to the overall end all. He hosts his own podcast where him and his guests do a great job in balancing the jargon filled “x’s and o’s” of talking shop of coaching basketball, along with the building of community that every morally just coach hopes to accomplish. He is one of the voices of an educator that are pleasing to the ear not only in tone, but in the message he conveys through actions and well being.