Elizabeth and Flourish have a wide-ranging chat with (you guessed it) Orlando Jones, of American Gods, Sleepy Hollow and those 7up commercials. Topics covered include the differing definitions of "fanboy" and "fangirl," Orlando's secret passion for R2D2/C3PO slash, race and racism in TV production, Rashomon's applicability to fandom wank, and which Batman is the best Batman.