Sue and Greg are joined by longtime friend of the podcast Dr James Hatch to talk all things Karate, Kobudo and everything else in between.

Also we wanted to say a massive shoutout to long time listener Ben Holbrook who came to train with us a couple of weeks ago. This was recorded before then so we couldn’t shout him out during the episode, but there is something in it that being a fellow great mate he will appreciate.

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