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In this deeply personal episode, Kyle invites his wife Alyssa back to the Chapter 3 Stigma podcast for a conversation recorded on Mother’s Day 2025, nearly two years after Kyle entered rehab for alcoholism. What follows is a moving and honest dialogue between partners about what it means to rebuild trust, parent with presence, and navigate the emotional terrain of recovery together.
Alyssa takes the lead, asking Kyle unfiltered questions about what’s changed in the last two years, what still challenges him, and how he’s stayed sober through life’s curveballs. From discussing the power of the 12 steps to the fear of complacency, to grieving the loss of their daughter Lucy while staying spiritually connected, this episode offers hope and depth for anyone walking the path of healing or supporting someone who is.
Whether you're newly in recovery, a longtime supporter, or someone seeking hope in a hard season, this conversation will stay with you.
00:00 Welcome & Why Mother's Day Will Never Be the Same Again
02:34 “Doesn’t It Feel Like Another Lifetime?” — Alyssa Reflects
04:11 The One-Year Chip, Milestones, and What Comes Next
08:39 “How Did You Do It?” — Kyle on Listening, Action & AA
10:52 From Rehab to Real Life: Building Consistency & Confidence
13:05 The Hardest Part: Letting Go and Forgiving
14:55 What’s Been Easy: Joy, Presence & Parenting in Recovery
17:58 Alcohol Today: Boundaries, Triggers & Reclaiming Peace
23:38 Showing Up for Others: Giving Back in the AA Community
29:41 Surprise Realization: I Was Afraid of My Own Potential
32:34 Time, Energy & Creativity Recovered in Sobriety
35:14 "I Couldn’t Picture Life Beyond 35" — Facing the Future
40:08 Legacy Over Achievement: What Really Matters
44:42 What I Haven’t Shared Yet: Resentment, Rage, and Growth
46:22 The Fear of Complacency and Staying Connected
50:04 One-on-One Conversations and Writing the Book for Grant
54:31 What Progress Looks Like Now: Emotional Stability & Prayer
59:54 Talking to Lucy: Faith, Grief, and End-of-Day Reflection
1:02:53 Final Reflections: A Life Rebuilt One Day at a Time
Keywords: recovery podcast, sobriety anniversary, couple in recovery, addiction and marriage, 12 steps of AA, emotional sobriety, grief and sobriety, faith in recovery, relapse prevention, parenting sober, Mother's Day recovery story, overcoming alcoholism
By Kyle ZibrowskiDo you need immediate help?
Suicide Hotline - 988
Substance Abuse and Mental Health hotline - 1-800-662-4357
Want to reach out?
Find us on:
Instagram (@chapter3stigma)
YouTube (@Chapter3Stigma)
Chapter 3 Stigma Website & Blog
In this deeply personal episode, Kyle invites his wife Alyssa back to the Chapter 3 Stigma podcast for a conversation recorded on Mother’s Day 2025, nearly two years after Kyle entered rehab for alcoholism. What follows is a moving and honest dialogue between partners about what it means to rebuild trust, parent with presence, and navigate the emotional terrain of recovery together.
Alyssa takes the lead, asking Kyle unfiltered questions about what’s changed in the last two years, what still challenges him, and how he’s stayed sober through life’s curveballs. From discussing the power of the 12 steps to the fear of complacency, to grieving the loss of their daughter Lucy while staying spiritually connected, this episode offers hope and depth for anyone walking the path of healing or supporting someone who is.
Whether you're newly in recovery, a longtime supporter, or someone seeking hope in a hard season, this conversation will stay with you.
00:00 Welcome & Why Mother's Day Will Never Be the Same Again
02:34 “Doesn’t It Feel Like Another Lifetime?” — Alyssa Reflects
04:11 The One-Year Chip, Milestones, and What Comes Next
08:39 “How Did You Do It?” — Kyle on Listening, Action & AA
10:52 From Rehab to Real Life: Building Consistency & Confidence
13:05 The Hardest Part: Letting Go and Forgiving
14:55 What’s Been Easy: Joy, Presence & Parenting in Recovery
17:58 Alcohol Today: Boundaries, Triggers & Reclaiming Peace
23:38 Showing Up for Others: Giving Back in the AA Community
29:41 Surprise Realization: I Was Afraid of My Own Potential
32:34 Time, Energy & Creativity Recovered in Sobriety
35:14 "I Couldn’t Picture Life Beyond 35" — Facing the Future
40:08 Legacy Over Achievement: What Really Matters
44:42 What I Haven’t Shared Yet: Resentment, Rage, and Growth
46:22 The Fear of Complacency and Staying Connected
50:04 One-on-One Conversations and Writing the Book for Grant
54:31 What Progress Looks Like Now: Emotional Stability & Prayer
59:54 Talking to Lucy: Faith, Grief, and End-of-Day Reflection
1:02:53 Final Reflections: A Life Rebuilt One Day at a Time
Keywords: recovery podcast, sobriety anniversary, couple in recovery, addiction and marriage, 12 steps of AA, emotional sobriety, grief and sobriety, faith in recovery, relapse prevention, parenting sober, Mother's Day recovery story, overcoming alcoholism