This is the episode Luau Lou's computer didn't want you to hear! Yes, after 5 attempts at editing it into an MP3, it finally gave up, and you get this hot bit of broadcasting! In this episode Bill and Lou sit down with Jayson Elliot, creator of Gygax Magazine and Top Secret New World Order. He talks all about his gaming past, the different projects he's been involved with and how some of them went down and his new baby, ModCon  a TTRPG con dedicated to games set in a "modern" timeline. We have a fun letter to respond to (asking us about our craziest D&D game) and cover the original 1975 Boot Hill booklet rules for our "This Ol' Dungeon" segment. Thanks to questions by Mark Wolf and John Williams we get to play a round of Geek Credit with our guest host and prove just what we know (or rather DON"T) about prog rock music, Warhammer, and D&D! Tune in, it's a fun one!