The two hosts, well known as old curmudgeons, tackle the seemingly foreign topic of hope and optimism. It turns out, both have much to say on the two concepts.

Referenced works:
The Greek legend of Sisyphus
The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus
Optimism: An Essay by Helen Keller
Essays and Aphorisms by Arthur Schopenhauer

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