In Episode 66, "The Humanizing Turn," Elizabeth and Flourish use a Star Wars meta that Flourish recently published as a jumping-off point to discuss tropes, characterization, and what we want from stories, in both canon and fanfiction. When do we grant stories complexity—and when do we simplify them, slotting characters into archetypes? They round out the discussion by responding to a listener question about "anti culture" and how both the methods and the content of anti-shipping have changed in recent years.