In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the world of educational research and "what counts." The discussion was prompted by a conference panel discussion that Ollie participated in where the work of Robert Slavin was commemorated. In the episode, we discuss Slavin's work and the What Works Clearinghouse as well as work by John Hattie.

Things that bring us joy this week:

Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind