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In this episode, I sit down with Cait Madry, the founder of Clearheaded — and a woman whose path to clarity about her own life included a fundamental rethinking of her relationship with alcohol. The phrase know thyself gets quoted often in personal-growth content, but Cait's story names something that doesn't get said as often: the act of knowing yourself is much harder when your thoughts are quietly clouded by something you haven't fully looked at.
For Cait, that something was alcohol. Not because she had an obvious problem with it, but because she eventually realized it was sitting between her and the version of herself she wanted to know. The story she shares isn't a recovery memoir. It's a clearer-eyed account of what it looks like to ask honest questions about a substance most of us have never been encouraged to question — and what becomes possible when you do.
We talk about sobriety and sober curiosity as broader categories, what those terms actually mean in practice, and the experience of stepping back to examine a relationship most of us treat as just the way things are. Cait is generous and grounded in how she shares her own path, and the conversation creates space for listeners across a range of relationships with alcohol — those who have never questioned it, those who have wondered about it quietly, those who are actively reconsidering, and those who have already made a change.
If you've been carrying a quiet question about your own relationship with alcohol — or just an interest in what becomes possible when you start asking honest questions about the things you've taken for granted — this conversation is worth your time.
This episode originally aired on Hitting Rock Middle, the show that has since evolved into The Sallie Ogden Show.
Connect with Cait and Clearheaded:https://open.spotify.com/show/2eJjHWXa6PbuBQx8a2HH3u
About the show:
The Sallie Ogden Show is for the woman who's already built something — and is stuck at the plateau where the old playbook stops working. Tactical when you need a number. Honest when you need a mirror. Hosted by former lawyer turned consultant Sallie Ogden.
Stay connected:Newsletter (Further): https://www.growwiththebrimm.com/furthernewsletterFree business assessment — The BRIMM Business Scan: https://thebrimm.typeform.com/to/fuYmBbJIWebsite: growwiththebrimm.comInstagram: @the_brimm
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In this episode, I sit down with Cait Madry, the founder of Clearheaded — and a woman whose path to clarity about her own life included a fundamental rethinking of her relationship with alcohol. The phrase know thyself gets quoted often in personal-growth content, but Cait's story names something that doesn't get said as often: the act of knowing yourself is much harder when your thoughts are quietly clouded by something you haven't fully looked at.
For Cait, that something was alcohol. Not because she had an obvious problem with it, but because she eventually realized it was sitting between her and the version of herself she wanted to know. The story she shares isn't a recovery memoir. It's a clearer-eyed account of what it looks like to ask honest questions about a substance most of us have never been encouraged to question — and what becomes possible when you do.
We talk about sobriety and sober curiosity as broader categories, what those terms actually mean in practice, and the experience of stepping back to examine a relationship most of us treat as just the way things are. Cait is generous and grounded in how she shares her own path, and the conversation creates space for listeners across a range of relationships with alcohol — those who have never questioned it, those who have wondered about it quietly, those who are actively reconsidering, and those who have already made a change.
If you've been carrying a quiet question about your own relationship with alcohol — or just an interest in what becomes possible when you start asking honest questions about the things you've taken for granted — this conversation is worth your time.
This episode originally aired on Hitting Rock Middle, the show that has since evolved into The Sallie Ogden Show.
Connect with Cait and Clearheaded:https://open.spotify.com/show/2eJjHWXa6PbuBQx8a2HH3u
About the show:
The Sallie Ogden Show is for the woman who's already built something — and is stuck at the plateau where the old playbook stops working. Tactical when you need a number. Honest when you need a mirror. Hosted by former lawyer turned consultant Sallie Ogden.
Stay connected:Newsletter (Further): https://www.growwiththebrimm.com/furthernewsletterFree business assessment — The BRIMM Business Scan: https://thebrimm.typeform.com/to/fuYmBbJIWebsite: growwiththebrimm.comInstagram: @the_brimm