What do you get when you mix a Friday night in, a few gins and a podcast conversation all about your idols? You get two very giggly Normal People (Paul Mescal) and I'm Grand Mam fans being completely inappropriate. 

This weeks chat is all about why they say "never meet your idols" (P.S. Who's 'they'?); The let downs and disappointments, and why in some cases that responsibility actually falls on the individual doing the idolising. On a positive note, however, the gals chat about moments they met some of their idols and were completely blown away by their humility and generosity (Esbe, cheers to ya, you absolute legend!), and people they still hope to meet in this wild world we live in. 

Just an FYI: The gals also finally experienced their first technical difficulty as Emily's mic decided to shit itself for the duration of this recording but they didn't realise until AFTER talking for approximately 4 hours. So! Apologies for the sound quality of Em's mic this week, we decided to go ahead with releasing this weeks conversation but if you decide to pass on this one for this reason that's totally fine and you should have a listen to some previous conversations instead (The Dummy Spit was one of our personal faves)!

Thanks for stickin' with us, tech issues and all! We bloody love ya!

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