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Episode 7 – Theology High Five (with Jeremey Weiss)

Theology High Five is two episodes coming together to produce one satisfying (extended) conversation about a theological idea. Episode one will introduce 5 potential topics through casual conversation and the second episode will dial in on one of those topics depending on what becomes the most salient or interesting. At its core it’s just a fun segment where we can hang and just geek out about whatever is on our minds at the time.

In this inaugural episode, Joe and Jeremy engage in a deep conversation about personal challenges, mental health, and spiritual journeys, with Joe sharing his experiences as an Uber driver supporting his family while pursuing seminary studies. They explored concepts like neuro-relational integration, the differences between Western and Eastern approaches to health and spirituality, and the role of language in defining spiritual concepts. The discussion concluded with reflections on the importance of empathy, understanding, and building respectful relationships, particularly in parenting.

Key Discussion Points

· Mental Health Challenges, Relationships and Authentic faith: Joe shared his current challenges and his ongoing struggles with mental health, including depression, PTSD, and bipolar symptoms. Jeremy shared his personal journey and perspective on relationships, community, and spirituality. He explained how his independent upbringing shaped his approach to friendships and his preference for a small, close group of friends over many acquaintances. The conversation touched on Jeremy’s philosophy of embracing both light and dark emotions, drawing parallels to the Star Wars character Luke Skywalker.

· Neuro-Relational Integration: Jeremy and Joe discussed the concept of neuro-relational integration, which Joe introduced as a scientific approach to understanding and integrating the brain, heart, and body. Joe recommended resources by Dr. Shaleen Kendrick, who studies this field, and explained how it can help individuals evolve and respond to situations in real-time. Jeremy compared this concept to an HRIS system, noting that the more effort one puts in, the more the system works for them.

· Religion vs Language; Spirituality vs Perspective: Jeremy and Joe discussed the nature of spirituality and religion, particularly how organized religion has diverged from its original, more connected form. Jeremy expressed skepticism about institutionalized religion and highlighted how language can create misunderstandings and conflicts when trying to define spiritual concepts. They agreed that while language can be challenging, it remains a powerful tool for exploring and expressing complex ideas. They also touched on the distinction between spirituality and organized religion, with Joe noting how religion can be corrupted by empire.

· Eastern vs Western Approaches to Health and Spirituality: They also touched on the differences between Western and Eastern approaches to health and spirituality, with Jeremy suggesting that Eastern cultures might be healthier due to their understanding of the interconnectedness of body, mind, and spirit.

· Parenting Perspectives and Relationship Building: Jeremy and Joe discussed the commonalities and differences among people, emphasizing the importance of understanding and empathy. They shared personal reflections on parenting, with Jeremy expressing admiration for Joe and Candice’s approach to raising their children. Joe shared his pride in his kids’ maturity and independence; despite the challenges they have faced.

Mentions

· https://trippfuller.com/

· https://substack.com/@homebrewedteam

· https://processthis.substack.com/

· https://substack.com/@shaleenkendrick

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https://nrintegration.com/

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