George C. Wolfe's is a giant of American theater, directing, producing and writing some of the most important works of the last 25 years. Fresh of seeing George's latest musical, Shuffle Along, Marc finds out what George wants audiences to take from the experience of live theater. Plus, Daniel Nazer from the EFF stops by to update Marc on the fight against the podcast patent troll and what needs to happen next. This episode is sponsored by Starry Station, Squarespace, Stamps.com, Casper and the Blue Cash Preferred Card from American Express.