In this episode of This Album on Islington Radio, host William Han sits down with Austin “Ozzie” Williams of Swim Deep for a deep dive into one of the most experimental records of all time — McCartney II by Paul McCartney.

From Birmingham beginnings to shaping dreamy indie music over 13+ years, Ozzie opens up about his journey with Swim Deep, the creative process behind their new album Hum, and the realities of making music today. Together, they explore the legacy of McCartney II — a genre-defying album that helped pioneer bedroom pop, electronic music, and DIY production long before it became mainstream.

Expect stories about first hearing McCartney on a surreal trip to LA, reflections on songwriting, creativity, and collaboration, plus honest insights into life as a working musician balancing art, family, and ambition.

🎧 In this episode:

• The influence of McCartney II on modern indie and electronic music
• Swim Deep’s evolution and new album Hum

• Songwriting, creativity, and musical inspiration
• Life in bands, touring, and staying driven after 10+ years
• Personal stories, laughs, and unexpected tangents

If you love artists like The Beatles, LCD Soundsystem, or Hot Chip, this episode is for you.

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