Phil, Lonnie and Rob hear from Johnny -Pain- Schaeffer. He talks about his

background, garage lifting, injuries, etc. Then there's some discussion on how much

frequency and volume are really needed for rapid physical change. There's a

difference between overtraining and just being a wus. ***NOTE: We are about to start

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