This week we combine the main pod and chit chat. This week's case is about the Murder of Gary Mattson and Winfield Mowder.  Back in 1999, a strange message was left on their answering machine and Gary's dad was concerned.  What he found was shocking and led the authorities to some unsolved arson cases. 

We dive right into chit chat afterwards, recapping Sam's fabulous trip, a date for Jeff, some celebrity criminal behavior and a few books and movies to watch.  Welcome Back Sammy Jo, we missed you!

Operation Hyacinth
The Fever - Megan Abbott
The Last Time I lied - Riley Sager