In today's episode, the second episode of our pride month extravaganza, we talk to writers Ben Kahn and Rachel Silverstein about their new graphic novel Renegade Rule and how it manifests a better, queerer, more diverse world for e-games. We also discuss reference images, scripting, creative processes and how they shift with a writing team, and more!

Make sure to follow Ben on Twitter at: @BenTheKahn

And follow Rachel on Twitter at: @flirtymango

Pick up Renegade Rule (written by Ben Kahn and Rachel Silverstein, Art by Sam Beck) now--out today!

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