Former Cardiff scrum-half Lloyd Williams joins Sportin Wales co-founder Gareth Anscombe on the podcast this week as both reflect on rugby outside of the Welsh bubble.

They recall the time when they received the dreaded shepherd's crook from Rob Howley and a particularly interesting holiday with fellow Welsh squad member Rhys Priestland.

Anscombe talks about how he's acclimatising to life in Gloucester ahead of the new season as he prepares for initiations and new structures.

While Williams offers his assessment of Wales and Cardiff half backs Ellis Bevan and Ben Thomas following the tour to Australia.

All that and much much more!

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