Chris and Robert discuss their shared cargo history, alongside their views on managements style, soft cargo volumes and standardisation across the industry.

Robert also talks about his love of DJ-ing, his claim to fame from the Arsenal players lounge and how two childhood sporting disappointments shaped the man he is today.

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Music used: Smoke