In this episode, Kathy talks to our host, Gunditjmara and Wotjobaluk woman Tanisha Lovett, about her lived experience during Covid 19, managing life with 3 children, the loss of her job, navigating her Masters in social work at university online, home schooling children and grieving the recent death of her husband and father. This episode highlights the complexity of life and added impact of the Covid 19 pandemic.