In this episode, I had the pleasure of speaking with Hanif Fazal, Co-Founder of the Center for Equity and Inclusion.
Hanif is someone I consider a friend, role model, mentor, and teacher. 90% of the facilitation content I use was influenced by and taught to me by Hanif and his co-founder, Frewine Kiros. Hanif has an amazing life story, and it’s clear that the work he does is a true calling. The way that he and his co-founder of the Center for Equity and Inclusion, Frewine, pour their entire being into their facilitations and partnerships with different organizations is such a gift to witness. They don’t let anyone off the hook, and certainly don’t make the work easy for their partners, but holy smokes do they go deep and straight to the heart of Equity and Inclusion in a way that is deeply compassionate, honest, and moving.
So, it goes without saying that our conversation gets super deep, to the point where this self-proclaimed physically unable to cry lady just LOST it.