Ellyn and Paul discuss meeting the in-laws. Something we can all relate to this time of year. Please enjoy!! #esayspsays #blacklovewins #cheersto35years #podcastle #podcastersoftiktok #podcasterofinstagram #podcastersofamazon #ezztees #etsyshop

Paul and Ellyn discuss how and when they knew that their youngest son was going to make it in life. #esayspsays #podcast #cheersto35years #podcastersofinstagram #ppodcastersoftiktok #podcastersofamazon #ezztees #tiktokover40 https://linktr.ee/esayspsays

Paul and Ellyn discuss how and when they knew that their oldest son was going to make it in life. #esayspsays #podcast #cheersto35years #podcastersofinstagram #podcastersoftiktok #podcastersofamazon #ezztees https://linktr.ee/esayspsays

Paul and Ellyn return for a 2nd season of the show.

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Ellyn and Paul discuss how some core beliefs have changed.

Paul and Ellyn discuss the things that they love and dislike about each other.

Ellyn and Paul discuss their first date.

Paul discusses his background and meeting Ellyn for the first time.

Ellyn discusses her background and meeting Paul for the first time.

Welcome to the first episode of 'E Says, P Says', a weekly exploration of Black love from two perspectives. Co-hosts Ellen (E) and Paul (P) embark on a journey, sharing their personal milestone of being married for 35 years, through conversations about their life and lessons discovered on their path.

In this episode, Ellen and Paul celebrate their triumph over odds in a world where over 51% marriages end in divorce. They shed light on their two beautiful children—a 34-year-old son pursuing a doctorate in education and a 25-year-old son in the finance sector—and their contributions to this journey of Black Love.

As part of highlighting their journey, the hosts reveal their plans to incorporate their love for reading into the podcast. Additionally, they offer listeners an opportunity to join in discussions on books like 'Help is on the Way' by Country Wayne, 'What Set Me Free' by Brian Bank, 'Think and Grow Rich, A Black Choice' by Dennis Kimbrough and Napoleon Hill, and 'The Four Agreements' by Don Miguel Ruiz.

They fondly reflect on their love story — notably, how perseverance and the gift of laughter have kept their bond alive for 35 years. Their narrative aims to inspire couples from various stages of relationships and even those embracing singlehood, to embark on this shared journey of love and self-growth.

While they aren't therapists, their heartfelt share of trials, tribulations, joys, and affirmations for almost four decades of marital life may serve as a golden well of wisdom to those listening.

So join Ellen and Paul, as they kick off their weekly dose of Black love on the inaugural episode of 'E Says, P Says'. Don't forget to subscribe and leave any comments or questions on their social media platforms. See you next week!