ESG In Property Podcast

In this episode of the ESG in Property Podcast, we’re joined by Matt Ellis, CEO of Measurabl, to explore the growing impact of ESG data on the real estate industry.

Matt shares his journey from navigating the 2008 financial crisis to leading a pioneering ESG technology platform.

Together, we uncover how sustainability data, when structured and applied effectively, can significantly enhance asset value, leasing strategies, and lending decisions. 

Matt also addresses the limitations of conventional certifications, advocating for the use of objective, measurable metrics to accurately assess the sustainability of properties.

He highlights how data on energy use, carbon emissions, and climate risk is transforming the way institutional investors and stakeholders make decisions, fundamentally changing how value is perceived in the property market. 

This episode also touches on the importance of digitalisation in the sector, emphasising that organisations with a strong competency in data are positioning themselves to attract capital and gain a competitive edge.

As real estate evolves, the ability to manage and interpret ESG data is becoming essential for navigating the future of the industry. 

Whether you’re a property manager, investor, or ESG professional, this episode offers valuable insights into how sustainability metrics can be harnessed to drive both financial and environmental outcomes. Don’t miss this conversation about the future of real estate and the strategic role of ESG data. 

Key Takeaways: 

1. Measurabl makes subjective ESG data objective. Through an unrivaled data platform and flexible solutions, we quantify and catalyse sustainability to unleash the potential of ESG across the real estate ecosystem.

2. Its aim is to use sustainability data to enhance building value, leasing, lending, and securitisation. 

3. Certifications have limitations; objective and measurable sustainability metrics provide more accurate assessments. 

4. Analysing data on building characteristics, consumption, and projects is key to improving sustainability performance and financial outcomes. 

5. Data on energy, carbon, climate risk, certification, and regulation is crucial to real estate value and transactions. 

6. Sustainability data is transforming communication and decision-making among stakeholders. 

7. Data competency is essential for attracting capital and conducting successful transactions in real estate. 

8. Technology plays a pivotal role in driving digitalisation and sustainability across the industry. 

9. The future of real estate lies in constant evolution, with data providing a competitive advantage. 

In this episode, we delve into the transformative world of sustainable and socially impactful property development with Sarah Milne, Head of Impact at Puma Property Finance. Discover how developers can access discounted debt—up to 1% lower interest rates—by meeting specific environmental and social criteria that not only enhance their projects but also contribute positively to communities and the planet.

Sarah shares her inspiring journey from being a professional GB badminton athlete to leading impactful financial initiatives, highlighting her passion for the intersection of people and the built environment. We explore Puma Property Finance's innovative Impact Lending Framework, which simplifies and incentivises ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) practices through accessible certifications like EDGE Green Building and the Next Generation Sustainability Benchmark.

Learn how targeted investments in areas of high deprivation across the UK are fostering economic activity, employment opportunities, and improved quality of life. Sarah discusses the critical role of government data in identifying these areas and shaping meaningful social metrics for development projects.

Join us as we unpack the future of property finance, the increasing pressure on lenders to improve ESG performance, and how simplicity and accessibility in impact lending can break down barriers for developers of all sizes.

This conversation is a must-listen for anyone interested in sustainable development, finance innovation, and creating lasting positive change through property.

Tune in to discover:

· How sustainable and social impact criteria can unlock financial benefits for developers.

· The role of Puma Property Finance's Impact Lending Framework in simplifying ESG integration.

· The significance of certifications like EDGE and Next Generation Sustainability Benchmark in driving industry-wide transformation.

· Strategies for tracking and maximising the impact of investments in deprived areas.

· Insights into the evolving landscape of sustainable property finance and its influence on community well-being.

In this enlightening episode, Susanne Eickermann-Riepe, a seasoned expert in governance, delves into the pivotal role of governance within the ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) framework. Susanne explains how robust governance serves as the cornerstone of successful businesses, enabling them to generate positive social and environmental impacts. She underscores the importance of diverse supervisory boards, transparent communication, and reliable data, highlighting the growing influence of the younger generation in demanding transparency and purpose-driven organisations. 

Susanne advises companies to cultivate a governance culture that aligns with evolving market dynamics, stressing the importance of the four Ds: demographic shifts, de-globalisation, digitisation, and decarbonisation. 

Chapters: 

00:00 - The Power of Governance in Creating and Building 
In this introduction, we explore the foundational importance of governance in real estate and business at large. Susanne shares insights from her extensive career, emphasising how good governance fosters innovation and stability. 

09:54 - Transparency, Compliance, and Ethical Standards in Governance 
Susanne discusses the critical need for transparency and compliance in governance, explaining how these elements uphold ethical standards and build trust with stakeholders. 

12:07 - Governance in Real Estate: From Properties to Companies 
Delving into the real estate sector, Susanne outlines the unique governance challenges and opportunities within property management and development. 

18:14 - The Importance of Transparency and Trust in Governance 
Here, Susanne highlights the direct link between transparency, trust, and long-term success in governance. 

20:11 - Creating Value, Managing Risks, and Driving Sustainability through Governance: 
Susanne explains how effective governance can create value, manage risks, and drive sustainability efforts within organisations. 

23:27 - The Role of the Supervisory Board in Governance: 
A deep dive into the role of supervisory boards, focusing on their importance in steering governance and ensuring accountability. 

25:23 - Transparency and Trust in the Real Estate Industry: 
This section explores the specific challenges of maintaining transparency and trust within the real estate industry, with practical advice from Susanne. 

29:54 - The Influence of the Younger Generation on Governance: 
Susanne discusses the impact of the younger generation on corporate governance, highlighting their demand for greater transparency and ethical business practices. 

37:05 - Adapting to Changing Market Conditions and Regulations: 
Susanne offers strategies for adapting governance frameworks to keep pace with changing market conditions and regulatory landscapes. 

47:46 - The Four Ds: Demographic, De-globalisation, Digitisation, and Decarbonisation: The episode concludes with a comprehensive discussion on the four Ds and their influence on future governance strategies. 

Featured Guest: 

Susanne Eickermann-Riepe FRICS is Chair of the RICS European World Regional Board and Chair of the Advisory Board of RICS Germany. 

She is also the Chairwomen of the ICG Institute, which works with high-ranking German real estate companies on standards, values and sustainability to improve governance in the real estate industry.  

She was a partner at PwC for almost 20 years, led the German real estate business and was part of PwC’s EMEA and Global Leadership team.  

She works on sustainability issues and innovations in the real estate industry with the IMPACT format on the Platform Builtword Leading Innovation. 

She also works as an independent Senior Executive Advisor and holds various advisory and supervisory board mandates. 

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Tune in for an enlightening conversation with Chris Pyke,

Discover the origins of GRESB, an initiative that began as

Explore how GRESB has transformed sustainability

Learn about the strategic shift towards performance metrics, including energy efficiency, water usage, and waste management, and understand how these metrics correlate with financial returns. Chris discusses innovative approaches and case studies like Barangaroo in Sydney, highlighting strategies for improving underperforming assets.

Examine the broadening engagement with the capital stack in real estate investments, including the resurgence of private lenders and the integration of ESG factors. Chris emphasises the importance of financial performance transparency and the role of partnerships with institutions like Maastricht and MIT Centre for Real Estate.

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In this episode, we sit down with Steve Davis, CEO and founder of Grantside, to explore his journey from construction sites to pioneering sustainable and socially conscious property development. Steve shares how his mountaineering adventures have inspired his commitment to eco-friendly and people-centric buildings. We discuss the impact of climate change on his work, the philosophy behind people-centric design, and the integration of nature in urban developments. Steve also highlights the importance of trust, transparency, and engaging with occupants to create adaptable, sustainable spaces.

Guest Introduction:

Steve Davis is the founder and CEO of Grantside, a leading property developer and investor in the UK. With nearly 30 years of experience, Steve has overseen the development of over 2 million sq ft of commercial, logistics, and residential properties. A respected figure in the UK development and construction industry, Steve drives innovation and provides a guiding hand to each project, bringing together a team of experts to deliver unique and exceptional spaces.

Key Topics Discussed:

Impact of Climate Change on Property Development: Steve discusses how his experiences as a high-altitude mountain climber, witnessing the effects of climate change firsthand, have influenced his commitment to developing sustainable and environmentally conscious properties, with a goal to build only Zero Carbon properties by 2030.

People-Centric Design: We explore

Integrating Nature in Urban Landscapes: Steve highlights the importance of incorporating natural elements into urban developments, such as rooftop gardens and beehives, to promote sustainability and enhance residents' quality of life.

Sustainable Commercial Development: The

Trust, Transparency, and Engagement: Steve underscores the importance of building trust and maintaining transparency with occupants, and how engaging with them can lead to better, more adaptable, and sustainable buildings.

Join us as we welcome Jonathan Cohen, an industry-leading energy solicitor and Head of Energy at Howard Kennedy.

In this episode, Jonathan delves into the interconnection between property and energy within the sustainability and ESG.

Key Takeaways:

1. The Evolving Real Estate Landscape: Jonathan provides a snapshot of how the property development sector is increasingly intertwining with energy considerations, revealing new commercial opportunities such as revenue-sharing from EV charging points and solar photovoltaics.

2. The Challenge of Navigating Sustainable Value: Developers must balance immediate sustainability measures with the adaptability for future technological advancements to maintain relevance and value in their projects.

3. Financing and Technology Synergy: We explore how sustainable practices are becoming a prerequisite for funding, with financial backers requiring concrete actions for sustainability as part of investment conditions.

4. Energy Storage and Community Impact: The rise of large-scale battery storage facilities presents a new frontier for energy efficiency, and community engagement is highlighted as a crucial element in enhancing social impact and financial returns.

5. Legal Considerations in Energy Projects: From insurance negotiations to advising on stakeholder engagement, Jonathan outlines the legal intricacies involved in facilitating sustainable energy projects.

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Join Rachel Norris and Mark Middleton from Lockton in this episode as we delve into how environmental, social, and governance (ESG) considerations are reshaping the real estate and insurance industries. Our discussion uncovers the complex interplay between managing property risks and evolving insurance policies amidst increasing climate-related challenges.

Guest Introductions:

Rachel Norris has been at the forefront of Lockton for

Mark Middleton leverages his background in chemical

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There is a far, far better world. But it has to be seen to be believed.

Join us on a pioneering journey with Jonathan Smales, founder and CEO of Human Nature, as he unveils his transformative vision for eco-conscious communities.

Explore the philosophy behind Human Nature's mission to revolutionise urban landscapes through groundbreaking partnerships, regenerative agriculture, and sustainable development.

Human Nature and its partners are at the forefront of urban sustainability, actively crafting, designing, prototyping, building, and learning from projects across urban blocks, mixed-use buildings, homes, and more. This practical approach allows for the development of replicable and scalable solutions that enhance both social and environmental outcomes.

Learn about the Phoenix project—a shining example of sustainable placemaking—and how Jonathan's team is setting new standards in the field.

Tune in to see how sustainable development is transforming our cities and communities.

Tyler Goodwin, CEO and founder of Seaforth Land, unveils the nuances of modern real estate development.

In this insightful discussion, Tyler shares his experiences in revitalising iconic buildings, emphasising the integration of sustainable materials and designs.

Discover how the cultural shift toward environmental appreciation is influencing the aesthetics and functionality of commercial spaces.

Learn about the challenges and strategies of adapting historical properties to meet the demands of the future workplace.

Tyler also delves into the impact of hybrid working trends on commercial real estate, highlighting innovative approaches to create spaces that attract and retain talent.

This episode offers a deep dive into creating value through stakeholder-focused real estate solutions.

Tune in for an enlightening conversation with Professor Dr. Sven Bienert, a leading authority on climate change solutions in real estate from the University of Regensburg.

This episode dives into Dr. Bienert's pioneering work, including the development of the Carbon Risk Real Estate Monitor (CRREM), which equips the industry with essential tools for managing climate risks.

Discover the critical role of standardised climate risk assessments and how the CRREM initiative is helping to set global benchmarks for decarbonising properties.

Learn about the innovative strategies and practical applications of the CRREM tool across various stages of a property's life cycle, enhancing value and sustainability.

Whether you're an investor, property manager, or simply interested in the intersection of real estate and sustainability, this episode provides deep insights into the future-proofing strategies that are shaping the industry.

Join us to gain a comprehensive understanding of the evolving landscape of sustainable real estate.