Eternal Durdles

What if Legacy had stopped evolving in 2019?

This week we're joined by Gary, creator of Pre-War Legacy, a community-driven format that captures Legacy just before War of the Spark, FIRE Design, and the wave of Modern Horizons cards fundamentally changed the format.

We discuss:

• Why War of the Spark became the cutoff
• The impact of FIRE Design on Legacy
• Why many players consider 2018–2019 Legacy its golden age
• The philosophy behind Pre-War Legacy
• Miracles, Death & Taxes, Delver, Dark Depths, and Storm
• Why deck specialists thrive in closed formats
• Brewing opportunities in an 18,000-card card pool
• How to join the growing Pre-War Legacy community and play online

If you've been missing the Legacy of Brainstorm, Wasteland, Delver, Miracles, and Death & Taxes—without Modern Horizons or Universes Beyond—this format might be exactly what you've been looking for.

What deck would you register first?

#MTGLegacy #MagicTheGathering #PreWarLegacy #LegacyMTG #EternalFormats

What if Legacy had stopped evolving in 2019?

This week we're joined by Gary, creator of Pre-War Legacy, a community-driven format that captures Legacy just before War of the Spark, FIRE Design, and the wave of Modern Horizons cards fundamentally changed the format.

We discuss:

• Why War of the Spark became the cutoff
• The impact of FIRE Design on Legacy
• Why many players consider 2018–2019 Legacy its golden age
• The philosophy behind Pre-War Legacy
• Miracles, Death & Taxes, Delver, Dark Depths, and Storm
• Why deck specialists thrive in closed formats
• Brewing opportunities in an 18,000-card card pool
• How to join the growing Pre-War Legacy community and play online

If you've been missing the Legacy of Brainstorm, Wasteland, Delver, Miracles, and Death & Taxes—without Modern Horizons or Universes Beyond—this format might be exactly what you've been looking for.

What deck would you register first?

#MTGLegacy #MagicTheGathering #PreWarLegacy #LegacyMTG #EternalFormats

Think Hermit Full English Breakfast is just another Survival of the Fittest deck?Think again.This week we're joined by Galen LeMay, one of the premier Hermit F.E.B. pilots in Premodern, fresh off a Top 8 finish at the North American Championships. Together we break down one of the most complicated—and rewarding—combo decks in the format.In this episode we cover:Why Hermit F.E.B. is so difficult to masterThe Survival of the Fittest engineVolrath's Shapeshifter combo linesHermit Druid explainedPhyrexian Devourer + Triskelion killsPsychatog and Akroma combat killsKarmic Guide tricksAnimate Dead interactionsBattlefield Scrounger technologyWhy Palinchron is more important than it looksSideboarding philosophyHow to approach learning the deckWhy this archetype rewards hundreds of games of practiceIf you've ever wanted to understand one of Premodern's deepest combo decks, this is the episode.00:00 Introduction00:50 Why Hermit F.E.B. Is So Difficult03:03 Why Play This Deck?07:37 What Does Hermit F.E.B. Actually Do?11:20 Phyrexian Devourer Explained14:30 Triskelion Combo Kill20:10 Hermit Druid Combo25:20 Psychatog & Akroma Kill28:45 Mana Creatures Matter More Than You Think30:35 Karmic Guide Combo Lines37:50 Animate Dead Technology45:15 Battlefield Scrounger Innovation49:20 Palinchron Explained53:30 Hidden Combo Lines55:40 Patreon Matchup Guide Preview58:40 Sideboarding Philosophy1:12:45 Replenish Matchup & Sideboarding1:18:58 Goblins Matchup & Sideboarding1:27:24 Elves Matchup & Sideboarding1:34:40 Stiflenought Matchup & Sideboarding1:41:07 Mono Black Control Matchup & Sideboarding1:48:31 Burn Matchup & Sideboarding1:58:18 Landstill Matchup & Sideboarding2:06:34 The Rock Matchup & Sideboarding2:12:55 Enchantress Matchup & Sideboarding2:18:42 Survival Matchup & Sideboarding2:26:01 Closing Thoughts & Final Sideboarding Philosophy

Think Hermit Full English Breakfast is just another Survival of the Fittest deck?Think again.This week we're joined by Galen LeMay, one of the premier Hermit F.E.B. pilots in Premodern, fresh off a Top 8 finish at the North American Championships. Together we break down one of the most complicated—and rewarding—combo decks in the format.In this episode we cover:Why Hermit F.E.B. is so difficult to masterThe Survival of the Fittest engineVolrath's Shapeshifter combo linesHermit Druid explainedPhyrexian Devourer + Triskelion killsPsychatog and Akroma combat killsKarmic Guide tricksAnimate Dead interactionsBattlefield Scrounger technologyWhy Palinchron is more important than it looksSideboarding philosophyHow to approach learning the deckWhy this archetype rewards hundreds of games of practiceIf you've ever wanted to understand one of Premodern's deepest combo decks, this is the episode.00:00 Introduction00:50 Why Hermit F.E.B. Is So Difficult03:03 Why Play This Deck?07:37 What Does Hermit F.E.B. Actually Do?11:20 Phyrexian Devourer Explained14:30 Triskelion Combo Kill20:10 Hermit Druid Combo25:20 Psychatog & Akroma Kill28:45 Mana Creatures Matter More Than You Think30:35 Karmic Guide Combo Lines37:50 Animate Dead Technology45:15 Battlefield Scrounger Innovation49:20 Palinchron Explained53:30 Hidden Combo Lines55:40 Patreon Matchup Guide Preview58:40 Sideboarding Philosophy1:12:45 Replenish Matchup & Sideboarding1:18:58 Goblins Matchup & Sideboarding1:27:24 Elves Matchup & Sideboarding1:34:40 Stiflenought Matchup & Sideboarding1:41:07 Mono Black Control Matchup & Sideboarding1:48:31 Burn Matchup & Sideboarding1:58:18 Landstill Matchup & Sideboarding2:06:34 The Rock Matchup & Sideboarding2:12:55 Enchantress Matchup & Sideboarding2:18:42 Survival Matchup & Sideboarding2:26:01 Closing Thoughts & Final Sideboarding Philosophy

What if you could go back to Legacy's golden age?

This week, Phil is joined by Drake Honus to explore Classic Legacy, a community-driven Eternal format spanning Alpha through Rise of the Eldrazi. By freezing the card pool before years of supplemental products and power creep, Classic Legacy captures an era many players still consider the pinnacle of competitive Magic.

In this episode we discuss:

• What Classic Legacy is
• Why so many players are embracing community formats
• The philosophy behind Classic Legacy
• The resurgence of nostalgia in gaming
• Classic Legacy's history and growing community
• Tempo, aggro, midrange, combo, prison, and control archetypes
• Why Tarmogoyf, CounterTop, Deathrite Shaman, and Stoneforge Mystic still matter
• Proxy-friendly events and Battle Boxes
• Why interactive gameplay keeps players coming back
• How Classic Legacy compares to Premodern, Current Legacy, and 2015 Modern

If you've been looking for a way to experience Legacy before years of power creep reshaped the format, Classic Legacy might be exactly what you're looking for.

Would you sleeve up Classic Legacy?

#MTGLegacy #ClassicLegacy #MagicTheGathering #Premodern #EternalMagic

00:00 Introducing Classic Legacy
00:44 Why Players Are Leaving Modern Legacy
02:00 Magic's Golden Age
03:43 Nostalgia in Gaming & RuneScape Comparison
06:11 Why Classic Legacy Exists
08:34 More Than Just Nostalgia
11:01 History of Classic Legacy
12:04 2015 Modern & Community Formats
15:17 Why Community Formats Matter
18:02 Community First Philosophy
20:56 Classic Legacy Archetypes
21:37 Canadian Threshold Explained
24:42 Team America & New Horizons
26:42 Goblins, Merfolk & Elves
30:20 Bant Midrange & Tarmogoyf
36:17 Midrange in Classic Legacy
42:18 Combo Decks of the Era
47:02 Prison Strategies & Stax
48:23 Unlimited Proxies & Battle Boxes
53:19 Landstill, CounterTop & Control
59:10 Why Classic Legacy Keeps Growing
1:02:34 Final Thoughts

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What if you could go back to Legacy's golden age?

This week, Phil is joined by Drake Honus to explore Classic Legacy, a community-driven Eternal format spanning Alpha through Rise of the Eldrazi. By freezing the card pool before years of supplemental products and power creep, Classic Legacy captures an era many players still consider the pinnacle of competitive Magic.

In this episode we discuss:

• What Classic Legacy is
• Why so many players are embracing community formats
• The philosophy behind Classic Legacy
• The resurgence of nostalgia in gaming
• Classic Legacy's history and growing community
• Tempo, aggro, midrange, combo, prison, and control archetypes
• Why Tarmogoyf, CounterTop, Deathrite Shaman, and Stoneforge Mystic still matter
• Proxy-friendly events and Battle Boxes
• Why interactive gameplay keeps players coming back
• How Classic Legacy compares to Premodern, Current Legacy, and 2015 Modern

If you've been looking for a way to experience Legacy before years of power creep reshaped the format, Classic Legacy might be exactly what you're looking for.

Would you sleeve up Classic Legacy?

#MTGLegacy #ClassicLegacy #MagicTheGathering #Premodern #EternalMagic

00:00 Introducing Classic Legacy
00:44 Why Players Are Leaving Modern Legacy
02:00 Magic's Golden Age
03:43 Nostalgia in Gaming & RuneScape Comparison
06:11 Why Classic Legacy Exists
08:34 More Than Just Nostalgia
11:01 History of Classic Legacy
12:04 2015 Modern & Community Formats
15:17 Why Community Formats Matter
18:02 Community First Philosophy
20:56 Classic Legacy Archetypes
21:37 Canadian Threshold Explained
24:42 Team America & New Horizons
26:42 Goblins, Merfolk & Elves
30:20 Bant Midrange & Tarmogoyf
36:17 Midrange in Classic Legacy
42:18 Combo Decks of the Era
47:02 Prison Strategies & Stax
48:23 Unlimited Proxies & Battle Boxes
53:19 Landstill, CounterTop & Control
59:10 Why Classic Legacy Keeps Growing
1:02:34 Final Thoughts

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What if Legacy only included cards that went through Standard?

This week, Zac is joined by Arkratos to explore Heritage, a community-driven Eternal format that preserves Legacy's foundation while excluding supplemental products like Modern Horizons and cards that never entered Standard. The result is a familiar—but dramatically different—format that continues to evolve with every in-universe Standard release.

In this episode we discuss:

• What Heritage is and how it differs from Legacy
• Why Standard-only card legality creates a healthier metagame
• The impact of removing supplemental products
• Why cards like Bowmasters and Modern Horizons staples aren't present
• New archetypes built around Moonshadow, Archmage's Newt, and Likeness Looter
• BUG Beans, Dreadnought, Cradle Control, and Mono Black innovations
• How Heritage handles bans independently from Legacy
• Why community-driven formats continue to grow
• How to build a local Heritage community and get involved today

If you've been looking for an Eternal format that still evolves—but at a more manageable pace—Heritage may be exactly what you're looking for.

Would you give Heritage a try?

#MTGLegacy #Heritage #MagicTheGathering #LegacyMTG #CommunityFormats

00:00 Introducing Heritage
00:45 What Is Heritage?
01:57 Why Heritage Was Created
04:21 Independent Banned List Philosophy
05:37 Heritage Isn't Just Old Legacy
07:14 Why Standard-Only Matters
08:03 No Commander or Modern Horizons Cards
09:34 Heritage vs. Modern Legacy
11:04 New Cards Still Shape the Format
13:37 Why Community Formats Matter
15:31 Building a Local Heritage Community
17:32 Be the Change in Your Community
18:10 Why Heritage Is Affordable to Build
20:14 BUG Beans & Archmage's Newt
25:05 Moonshadow Combo Deck
27:43 Cradle Control Returns
30:17 Likeness Looter Dreadnought
33:34 Elves Is Back!
34:26 Getting Started with Heritage
35:16 A Slower Pace of Innovation
36:24 Less Pressure, More Brewing
38:50 Becoming a Deck Specialist Again
39:50 Final Thoughts & Community Growth
43:16 Closing Remarks

Timestamps

What if Legacy only included cards that went through Standard?

This week, Zac is joined by Arkratos to explore Heritage, a community-driven Eternal format that preserves Legacy's foundation while excluding supplemental products like Modern Horizons and cards that never entered Standard. The result is a familiar—but dramatically different—format that continues to evolve with every in-universe Standard release.

In this episode we discuss:

• What Heritage is and how it differs from Legacy
• Why Standard-only card legality creates a healthier metagame
• The impact of removing supplemental products
• Why cards like Bowmasters and Modern Horizons staples aren't present
• New archetypes built around Moonshadow, Archmage's Newt, and Likeness Looter
• BUG Beans, Dreadnought, Cradle Control, and Mono Black innovations
• How Heritage handles bans independently from Legacy
• Why community-driven formats continue to grow
• How to build a local Heritage community and get involved today

If you've been looking for an Eternal format that still evolves—but at a more manageable pace—Heritage may be exactly what you're looking for.

Would you give Heritage a try?

#MTGLegacy #Heritage #MagicTheGathering #LegacyMTG #CommunityFormats

00:00 Introducing Heritage
00:45 What Is Heritage?
01:57 Why Heritage Was Created
04:21 Independent Banned List Philosophy
05:37 Heritage Isn't Just Old Legacy
07:14 Why Standard-Only Matters
08:03 No Commander or Modern Horizons Cards
09:34 Heritage vs. Modern Legacy
11:04 New Cards Still Shape the Format
13:37 Why Community Formats Matter
15:31 Building a Local Heritage Community
17:32 Be the Change in Your Community
18:10 Why Heritage Is Affordable to Build
20:14 BUG Beans & Archmage's Newt
25:05 Moonshadow Combo Deck
27:43 Cradle Control Returns
30:17 Likeness Looter Dreadnought
33:34 Elves Is Back!
34:26 Getting Started with Heritage
35:16 A Slower Pace of Innovation
36:24 Less Pressure, More Brewing
38:50 Becoming a Deck Specialist Again
39:50 Final Thoughts & Community Growth
43:16 Closing Remarks

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What if Legacy simply... stopped in 2016?This week, Zac is joined by Steven Bush (SWB) to discuss Peak Legacy, a community-created format that captures Legacy at one specific moment in time—before Conspiracy: Take the Crown, before Modern Horizons, and before the massive power creep that has reshaped the format.Together we explore why players are gravitating toward "snapshot" formats and what makes Peak Legacy unique.We discuss:Why 2016 was chosen as the cutoffThe philosophy behind Peak LegacyBuilding a Legacy battle boxWhy cards like Tarmogoyf and Snapcaster Mage matteredThe appeal of slower, interactive gameplayDecks like Miracles, Shardless BUG, Grixis Delver, Death & Taxes, Infect, and ElvesHow Peak Legacy compares to Classic Legacy, Heritage Legacy, and PremodernWhy community formats are growing in popularityHow to get involved and start playingIf you've been missing the feel of older Legacy, this might be the format you've been waiting for.Would you play Legacy exactly as it existed in 2016?#MTGLegacy #PeakLegacy #MagicTheGathering #LegacyMTG #CommunityFormats

What if Legacy simply... stopped in 2016?This week, Zac is joined by Steven Bush (SWB) to discuss Peak Legacy, a community-created format that captures Legacy at one specific moment in time—before Conspiracy: Take the Crown, before Modern Horizons, and before the massive power creep that has reshaped the format.Together we explore why players are gravitating toward "snapshot" formats and what makes Peak Legacy unique.We discuss:Why 2016 was chosen as the cutoffThe philosophy behind Peak LegacyBuilding a Legacy battle boxWhy cards like Tarmogoyf and Snapcaster Mage matteredThe appeal of slower, interactive gameplayDecks like Miracles, Shardless BUG, Grixis Delver, Death & Taxes, Infect, and ElvesHow Peak Legacy compares to Classic Legacy, Heritage Legacy, and PremodernWhy community formats are growing in popularityHow to get involved and start playingIf you've been missing the feel of older Legacy, this might be the format you've been waiting for.Would you play Legacy exactly as it existed in 2016?#MTGLegacy #PeakLegacy #MagicTheGathering #LegacyMTG #CommunityFormats