A Curious Life

Ethics in AI


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Toju Duke is an EMEA Responsible AI Program Manager at Google with over 15 years experience spanning Advertising, Retail, Not-For-Profits, and Tech.

She designs Responsible AI Programs focussed on the development and implementation of Ethical AI frameworks amongst Google's product teams. She is committed to driving social justice through AI while acknowledging the diverse backgrounds, cultures and ethnicities of society, and ensuring Responsible AI frameworks are applied to developing such technologies.

She is a prolific public speaker with a proven track record on business success and project management. In addition, she is the Founder of Refyne, a Manager for Women in AI Ireland, Head of Black and Brilliant AI solutions, and Tech start-up Mentor and Business Advisor

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Transcript

Hadley: [00:00:00] Tells you absolute pleasure to see you again after so many years. And welcome to the show.

[00:00:05] Toju: [00:00:05] Thank you very much, Hadley. Good to see you again as well. 

[00:00:09] Hadley: [00:00:09] Awesome. So, so listen, as you know, this is a show where essentially we want to, we want to find out in this case, the woman behind the movement, right.

[00:00:17] And we want to know more about you. So, uh, we kind of take this approach of campfire, like discussions where imagine you're sitting around a campfire, telling the story of our life and yeah, you're up, you know, but before we get into Toju and what makes her tick, um, I've got one question that I ask each guest.

[00:00:36] Uh, and this is what does curiosity mean to you?


[00:00:38] Toju: [00:00:38] Yeah, that's a, that's a good question. Um, I always say about curiosity did not kill the cat because where we grew up, we grew up with the saying of curiosity, killed the cat. So don't be too curious cause it can get killed and I've learned that that's not the case.


[00:00:52] So I think for me, curiosity is just having a genuine hunger and thirst to learn more. And to know more, to understand what lies beneath the surface on different subject topics on subject matters. So it's, um, just wanting to go deeper, dig a little bit deeper, being willing and open to learn new things.


[00:01:14] And if you hear about a certain concept, just being curious enough to know what it means, um, why, why it exists, what are the challenges? And you find out that the more curious you are in life, it gets more interesting because you're learning so many different things and that can even help yeah. That can help with, you know, your direction in life, in your career, your personal life, you know, and you just accumulate so much knowledge by being curious.


[00:01:40] Yeah. 


[00:01:41] Hadley: [00:01:41] And do you, do you find sometimes that actually it's because having, and one of my other guests classes it as general curiosity, right. But if by having a general curiosity about things, you tend to discover more about yourself. And in fact, um, what direction. You want to go in right? Uh, in life and your personal life as well as professional life.


[00:02:02] Do you, do you find that statement to be accurate? 


[00:02:05] Toju: [00:02:05] Yeah, that's what's happened to me now. I got into the field of AI is from curiosity. I was just curious, what is this whole ML hype about? And there was a, uh, sales, um, there was a training for non-techies at my workplace in Google. And I, I went out of curiosity.


[00:02:20] I was like, I...

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