The NCETM Maths Podcast

Evaluating Maths Hubs’ impact with the EEF

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In this episode, the NCETM’s Dr Jen Shearman, Paul Rowlandson and Sue Evans discuss the upcoming EEF-funded trials of two important Maths Hubs programmes in 2025/26. The conversation explores the role of external evaluation, the challenges of conducting randomised controlled trials (RCTs), and what the findings could mean for maths education.

A transcript (PDF) of this episode is available to download.

Show notes
Taking part in the discussion:
  • Jen Shearman, Director for Evaluation and Impact, NCETM
  • Sue Evans, Assistant Director for Primary, NCETM
  • Paul Rowlandson, Assistant Director for School and Professional Development, NCETM
  • Julia Thomson, Senior Communications and Marketing Manager, NCETM.
    • Episode chapters
    • 00:00 Introduction and welcome
    • 01:12 Meet the team and overview of the EEF trials
    • 01:57 Understanding the EEF and its role
    • 03:31 The NCETM's involvement with the EEF
    • 06:11 Introduction to the SKTM Secondary Non-specialist Teachers Programme
    • 09:28 Introduction to the Mastering Number at Reception and KS1 Programme
    • 12:02 Challenges in conducting the trials
    • 22:01 Hopes and expectations from the trials
    • 31:04 Conclusion and how to get involved.
      • Useful links
      • Specialist Knowledge for Teaching Mathematics Secondary Non-specialist Teachers Programme
      • Mastering Number at Reception and KS1
      • Mastering Number at KS2
      • Blog post on the EEF trials: Going for gold standard
      • Evaluating our programmes in 2025/26
      • EEF trial of the Secondary Non-specialist Teachers SKTM Programme
      • EEF trial of the Mastering Number at Reception and KS1 Programme
      • TIMMS 2023 Report
      • Coordinating mathematical success: the mathematics subject report (2023)
      • Explore previous episodes of the NCETM podcast in our archive.
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