In Episode 8, We are joined by our dear friend and colleague Evan Segura. Evan is a community organizer, amateur mycologist, traveler, and basically a mushroom on two legs. This was the first interview we ever recorded and it was such a delight to start our podcast life with a dialogue that embodies our values. Mentorship, community, accountability, humor, and learning as an avenue toward healing.

Mentioned in this episode (Visit our blog for live links):

Plant Parenthood & Rebecca Kronman

Drug Use For Grown-Ups by Dr. Carl Hart 

Carolyn Fine & Psychedelic Equity Project (Love y'all!)

Saffron & Psilocybin for ADHD

The Ancestor Project Mutual Ceremony Fund

Calling In vs. Calling Out

Students for Sensible Drug Policy

What's in this episode:

Leading while young (3:00)

Occupation is not identity (3:30)

What this movement needs (5:30)

The unsung helpers & healers (6:05)

Evan's roots in psychedelia from age 13 on (7:00)

Believing the Earth when we can't believe in people (8:00)

How mushrooms helped Evan feel better (10:00)

Why introductory education about psychedelics is an access issue (11:00)

Evan’s travels, how he serendipitously ended up in Portland at 18 (13:30)

Evan’s beloved mentor, the late Matt O’Brien (17:00)

Leading at Portland Psychedelic Society (20:00)

Sporulating all over the world (23:30)

What has surprised Evan most about the space (24:15)

How important anti-oppression work is in leadership within psychedelics (26:00)

The more profitable a company is, the more we expect in equity work and reparations. Time to step up.  (28:00)

Religious experiences and psychedelics (30:00)

Saffron & psilocybin microdosing for ADHD (32:00)

It’s on white leaders to ensure diversity in leadership (& why this is so important) (34:30)

Healthy peer pressure & accountability (36:00)

Respect, not tokenization (36:30)

White allies helping white allies (39:00)

Language for calling in vs calling out (40:00)

Destigmatizing all drug use, psychedelic exceptionalism & privilege (44:00)

Carl Hart’s book, Drug Use For Grown-Ups (45:30)

Evan’s dreamy dream (47:00)

Developing less land & using what is already here (49:30)

What healing means to Evan: rest and lifelong learning (51:00)

Having friends older than you with lived experiences (55:00)

Huge thank you to the wonderful, brilliant Evan Segura. Follow Evan on Instagram at @evanisamushroom and check out the Portland Psychedelic Society at their website or Instagram at @portlandpsychedelic.

And special thank you to the people behind the scenes who help make the Fruiting Bodies podcast possible. Go send them some love!

Podcast Manager, Sydney Bogan @namaste.productions

Studio space, Mariah Makalapua  at @Medicine.Collective

Equipment & support, Joe Izzo from Conscious Cloud Podcast

All of our incredible volunteers, collaborators, and listeners, like you!

Stay connected by following us on Instagram @fruitingbodiesco. Visit our website to find past show notes, join the conversation, contribute to our fundraiser, join our email list and download free guides to microdosing and psilocybin therapy.

Thank you for supporting our shared mission!

-Elan & Becca