Hour two takes a bit darker and more dismal tone (great for a morning show!), as we learn about some of the high-profile and outrageous abductions (and accidental raids) by ICE. Speaking to a similar blend of cruelty and incompetence from the current administration, Mike McCabe joins us for his weekly appearance. He tells the story of an Arkansas man kicked off Medicaid, who later died as a result. Hope returns by the end of the hour, as Mike tells us that even when the sun sets, it shines elsewhere.

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