In this episode of Every Child Belongs, Kim Botto talks with entrepreneur and dad Chris Heslip, founder of PushPay and CEO of Amazing Life. Chris shares how his passion for creating welcoming church spaces for all kids stems from personal experience—raising two sons, one with ADHD and the other with autism. Through vulnerability and vision, Chris opens up about the grief, learning, and breakthroughs that shaped his family’s journey and deepened his commitment to inclusive ministry. Chris and Kim discuss the practical and emotional challenges families face when their children are neurodivergent. From being turned away at churches to finding joy in small acts of kindness, Chris shares powerful stories that reveal the urgent need for empathy, preparation, and thoughtful ministry environments. They also explore how churches can innovate—not by chasing trends, but by doing the basics exceptionally well. Whether it’s a simple buddy system, sensory-friendly accommodations, or just remembering a child’s name, Chris offers inspiring, actionable insight for any leader who wants to better serve every family who walks through the doors. If you’ve ever wondered how to make church feel like home for kids who learn, feel, or behave differently, this episode will challenge and encourage you with a renewed sense of mission.

Amazing Life EveryChild Free Course and Curriculum https://www.joinamazing.com/EveryChild "Boundless Hope for Every Child" by Kim Botto https://amzn.to/3Uj0MKg (affiliate links) Every Child Belongs explores how we can create spaces where every child feels heard and valued, whether neurodivergent, differently abled, or they've experienced trauma. We'll hear from educators, parents, professionals, and more. Kim Botto is an adoptive mom, grandma, an advocate for kids and teens with disabilities, as well as a long-time leader of kids in student ministries.

In this episode of Every Child Belongs, Kim Botto welcomes Dr. Steve Grcevich, a child and adolescent psychiatrist and founder of Key Ministry. With decades of experience and a deep passion for inclusion, Dr. Steve shares his journey from medical practice to ministry, focusing on helping churches welcome families impacted by hidden disabilities and mental health conditions. Dr. Steve unpacks eye-opening data showing that families raising children with mental health challenges—like anxiety, ADHD, and autism—are significantly less likely to attend church. He explains the barriers these families face, from stigma and social isolation to sensory processing issues and previous negative church experiences. Together, Kim and Dr. Steve explore practical steps churches can take to become more welcoming, inclusive spaces where every child and family can belong. You’ll hear actionable ideas rooted in compassion, research, and lived experience—whether you’re a church leader, parent, or advocate. Discover how small changes in your church culture and environment can have a lasting impact on families who need it most—and why this work is not just important, but a calling. Key Ministry https://keyministry.org/ "Boundless Hope for Every Child" by Kim Botto https://amzn.to/3Uj0MKg (affiliate links) Every Child Belongs explores how we can create spaces where every child feels heard and valued, whether neurodivergent, differently abled, or they've experienced trauma. We'll hear from educators, parents, professionals, and more. Kim Botto is an adoptive mom, grandma, an advocate for kids and teens with disabilities, as well as a long-time leader of kids in student ministries.

It's the summer! Our routines change, the way we do things change, and so we're changing up Every Child Belongs for the month of July with a couple of mini-episodes.  When we started this podcast in January 2025, one in 36 kids were being diagnosed with autism. Just a few months ago, the CDC, Center for Disease Control, released new research which shows that one in 31 kids are being diagnosed with autism. And it made Kim think back on a couple episodes that we had with two moms who are parenting kids who are autistic.   Our very first episode was with Larah Roberts. She shared all kinds of great insight on how we can talk to our kids who are neurodivergent about things of faith.  One of the things I love that she talked about was God created us to know him. So the fact that somebody has a diagnosis or a difference, that doesn't change the fact that God created them to know him so we can march forward confidently. Larah's Episode:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/raising-autistic-disciples-larah-roberts/id1788322535?i=1000682404450 Larah's Book "How to Advocate & Stay Christian: For Parents of Special Kids" https://amzn.to/4mcTT9b The second episode by a mom raising an autistic kid is my friend, Kari Baker. Her son, Brady, is a teenager, and she shares how they navigated getting the diagnosis. And one of my favorite quotes in her book is she talks about how the first couple years, they were very much swimming in a private pool. Like they weren't sharing it with anybody. They weren't even using the term autism. She talks about how she navigated that, how she started being vulnerable and how God used that to really build her community. Kari's Episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kind-families-kari-baker/id1788322535?i=1000685147742 Kari's Book "Finding KIND: Discovering Hope and Purpose While Loving Kids with Invisible Neurological Differences" https://amzn.to/451GV79 So if you are somebody who is parenting an autistic kid, loves an autistic kid, has a family in your circle that has an autistic kid, and you want to better understand what these families might be going through or how you can better support them, give those both a listen. Everybody have a great summer!

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It's the summer! Our routines change, the way we do things change, and so we're changing up Every Child Belongs for the month of July with a couple of mini-episodes. 

In this episode of Every Child Belongs, host Kim Botto sits down with her friend and fellow advocate Sandra Peoples. 

Sandra shares her unique story of growing up in a family shaped by disability—her older sister had Down syndrome—and how that upbringing influenced her calling. Years later, Sandra and her husband became parents to two boys, one of whom was diagnosed with profound autism. This dual perspective—both as a sibling and now a parent—has fueled her lifelong work in encouraging families and guiding churches toward true inclusion.

Sandra's book, Unexpected Blessings, unpacks the beauty and challenge of life in a special needs family. Now, Sandra focuses her energy on equipping churches to welcome and support all people. She shares how her own family asked bold questions when interviewing at churches, advocating for disability ministries from day one. Her story is one of grace, growth, and gospel-centered advocacy that every church leader and family needs to hear.

If you’re navigating disability in your own family or leading in a church wondering where to start, Sandra’s insights are both inspiring and practical. From language learning to ministry-building, Sandra reminds us what’s possible when we choose to see every person as a vital part of the body of Christ. "Boundless Hope for Every Child" by Kim Botto https://amzn.to/3Uj0MKg (affiliate links) Every Child Belongs explores how we can create spaces where every child feels heard and valued, whether neurodivergent, differently abled, or they've experienced trauma. We'll hear from educators, parents, professionals, and more. Kim Botto is an adoptive mom, grandma, an advocate for kids and teens with disabilities, as well as a long-time leader of kids in student ministries.

In this heartfelt episode, Kim Botto is joined by Jamie Finn—foster and adoptive mom, author, and founder of Foster the Family. Jamie shares her candid journey into foster care and the powerful lessons she’s learned along the way. With humility and wisdom, Jamie emphasizes that being "qualified" isn’t about credentials—it's about love, faith, and a willingness to grow.

Jamie opens up about what it really means to step into the foster care world unprepared but faithful, highlighting the importance of trauma-informed care, surrounding yourself with community, and approaching others with grace. She gives insight into helping the broader community understand trauma-related behaviors and why vulnerability from parents should center on their emotions, not their children's stories.

Listeners will be encouraged by Jamie’s perspective on protecting kids—not only physically but also emotionally and socially. She explains how sharing just the right amount of information with trusted caregivers can transform the way children are supported and understood. Her blend of deep compassion and practical advice makes this episode a must-listen for any foster, adoptive, or caregiving family.

Whether you're a seasoned foster parent or just beginning to explore the idea, Jamie’s wisdom will inspire you to approach the journey with truth, gentleness, and a commitment to honor every child’s story with care. "Boundless Hope for Every Child" by Kim Botto https://amzn.to/3Uj0MKg (affiliate links) Every Child Belongs explores how we can create spaces where every child feels heard and valued, whether neurodivergent, differently abled, or they've experienced trauma. We'll hear from educators, parents, professionals, and more.

Kim Botto is an adoptive mom, grandma, an advocate for kids and teens with disabilities, as well as a long-time leader of kids in student ministries.

Welcome to Every Child Belongs, Kim Botto—an adoptive mom, grandma, and passionate advocate for children and teens with disabilities—explores how we can build spaces where every child feels seen, heard, and valued. With decades of experience in student and kids’ ministry, Kim invites listeners into meaningful conversations with parents, educators, professionals, and community leaders to uncover real-life strategies for inclusion. Whether a child is neurodivergent, differently abled, or has experienced trauma, this podcast offers support and encouragement for anyone invested in their well-being.

In this episode, Kim talks down with Dr. Terisha Lee, a parent educator, practical theologian, and the founder of FamAuLee Dynamics. Dr. Lee shares her inspiring journey of advocating for families navigating the intersections of faith, race, and disability. From early volunteer work as a child to launching support groups for parents, Dr. Lee has been living out her passion for inclusivity long before she had the language to describe it. Her motto, “God’s ability is greater than any disability,” reflects her deep commitment to creating space for families often overlooked or misunderstood by society and even within faith communities.

Dr. Lee opens up about the joys and challenges families face when raising children with disabilities, including how preconceived ideas about love and patience are often transformed through this journey. She also addresses the harm caused by shame-based theology and misinformed support, encouraging communities to lead with kindness instead of offering unsolicited opinions on causes and cures. With wisdom and grace, Dr. Lee offers practical advice on how individuals and churches can better support families—not by fixing, but by showing up and making room.

Together, Kim and Dr. Lee remind us that it doesn’t take a large budget or perfect plan to make a meaningful impact. Inclusion begins with the willingness to listen, to learn, and to adapt. Whether you're a parent, ministry leader, educator, or simply someone who cares, this conversation is filled with rich insights and gentle challenges that will leave you encouraged and better equipped to support every child’s belonging.

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In this special mailbag episode, host Kim Botto and producer Dave dive into real questions from parents and church leaders who are walking alongside neurodivergent kids or those impacted by trauma. From navigating overstimulation in youth group to meeting sensory needs at home, Kim offers practical, grace-filled strategies grounded in curiosity and compassion.

You’ll also hear why your stories and questions matter—and how they help shape a community that sees, supports, and values every child. Whether you're a parent, educator, or ministry leader, this episode brings real encouragement and tangible tools.

Kim Botto has spent more than 30 years walking alongside kids, families, and ministry leaders as they navigate tough stuff together. She holds a master’s in family ministry and is a TBRI® Practitioner, Trauma Free World Affiliate Trainer, and longtime kids and student pastor. Kim is a passionate voice for inclusion, belonging, and practical hope. She loves a messy table, meaningful connection, and time with her eleven grandkids.

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In this inspiring episode of Every Child Belongs, Kim Botto welcomes longtime friend and changemaker Chuck Mingo. Chuck, a teaching pastor at Crossroads Church and co-founder of Undivided, shares his heart for creating spaces of belonging and his journey of advocating for racial healing. As a natural "includer," Chuck brings wisdom on how we can move beyond surface-level conversations to create genuine connections where every story is heard and valued. Chuck opens up about the origins of Undivided, a transformative experience that equips people to engage in honest dialogue about race, faith, and justice. From its grassroots beginnings to becoming a nationwide movement, Chuck reflects on the power of listening, the courage required to pursue justice, and how everyday actions can lead to lasting impact. Together, Kim and Chuck explore how building empathy and amplifying every voice is essential for cultivating truly inclusive communities.

"Boundless Hope for Every Child" by Kim Botto https://amzn.to/3Uj0MKg (affiliate links) Every Child Belongs explores how we can create spaces where every child feels heard and valued, whether neurodivergent, differently abled, or they've experienced trauma. We'll hear from educators, parents, professionals, and more. Kim Botto is an adoptive mom, grandma, an advocate for kids and teens with disabilities, as well as a long-time leader of kids in student ministries.

Kim talks with Dr. Dwonna Thompson-Lenoir (PsyD, LPCC-S), a seasoned psychologist and licensed professional clinical counselor, to explore how trauma impacts children and their sense of belonging. Drawing from years of experience working with children and families, Dr. Dwonna unpacks what trauma really means, how it affects a child’s brain and behavior, and why perception plays such a critical role. Together, they dive into practical ways caregivers, teachers, and trusted adults can build trust with children who’ve faced trauma. From fostering curiosity and conversation to showing unwavering consistency, Dr. Dwonna shares actionable strategies to support kids in their healing journey.