What Would It Look Like?

Everything Will Be Returned


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What is the opposite of an acceptable reparations package and liberation movement? In this episode, Ebony and YONNAS analyze Palestine, Zionism, settler colonialism and Afropessimism

Ebony’s Website - https://www.ebonyisisbooth.com/

Ebony’s Instagram - @coachebonysaid

Yonnas’ Website - https://www.mynameisyonnas.com/

Yonnas’ Instagram - @mynameisyonnas


Poem: “Everything Will Be Returned” by Malkia Cyril https://mediajustice.org/staff/malkia-devich-cyril/

Afropessimism, Frank B.Wilderson, III. https://wwnorton.com/books/9781631496141

Against Our Better Judgement: The hidden history of how he U.S. was used to create Israel, Alison Weir. https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/against-our-better-judgment-the-hidden-history-of-how-the-united-states-was-used-to-create-israel/9252457/#isbn=149591092X

Palestine: A Socialist Introduction. Sumaya Awad & Brian Bean. (Free Download!) https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/1558-palestine-a-socialist-introduction 

“The Case for Reparations.” The Atlantic. Taneheisi Coates (2014). 

“There are New Suns.” Reparations Narrative Lab Report. https://www.reparationsnarrativelab.org/

Endnote on eminent domain: A University of Tel Aviv archaeologist named Ze’ev Herzon wrote in the newspaper Ha’aretz in 1999, “The Israelites were never in Egypt, did not wander in the desert, did not conquer the land in a military campaign, and did not pass it on o the twelve tribes of Israel. Furthermore, the united monarchy of David and Solomon, which is described by the Bible as a regional power, was at most a small tribal kingdom.” The Israelites were merely one indigenous culture among many. The idea that they had some sort of preeminent claim to the Holy Land has no basis in historical fact. Zionist archeology thus turns out to subvert Zionism.” https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/one-state-solution/tnamp/


Ebony’s Bio: Ebony is a passionate and engaged transformation coach, catalyst, and speaker whose work values lived experience as expertise. A champion and advocate for Black Women in new and emergent leadership positions; Ebony specializes in bringing joyful collaboration to cultural engagement strategies through inspired leadership development, authentic Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and radical Self-Acceptance that centers historically marginalized perspectives. Ebony brings awareness, alignment, and actionable solutions; inviting audiences to consider the nature of infinite possibility!

Yonnas’ Bio: The son of Samiel and Elsa, Eritrean immigrants who fled war, walked across the Sudanese desert for nine days, conceived him in Rome and birthed him in Denver, Yonnas Abraham is a confluence of miracles. 

Spending twelve of the past twenty years making indie rap in The Pirate Signal and BLKHRTS respectively, and 8 in his bedroom conceiving this: Dream Pop For Black People. Nick Bassett’s (Whirr, Nothing, Deafheaven) guitar and production acumen mix with Yonnas’s skillful sampling, soulful yet spectral singing and hard-ass beats to form a heady stew of Dream Bops. Dreamy Soul For Black Liberation. De-Colonized Rock music. The bright, shiny Black future.

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