In the latest season of their podcast, hosts Amber and Martin reflect on the evolving narrative of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). Amidst pushbacks and challenges, they discuss the necessity of moving beyond acronyms and politicized language to foster genuine understanding and respect. Amber shares personal experiences of anonymous criticism, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and respect in professional settings. The episode takes a deep dive into how communication barriers can hinder DEI efforts, urging listeners to scrap problematic language and embrace authentic dialogues that promote mutual respect and leverage differences for broader perspectives and solutions.