In this podcast episode, hosts Amber and Martin delve into the evolving concept of leadership, with Amber sharing her personal insights from both life and teaching experiences. They explore how leadership has transitioned from a traditional patriarchal model to one rooted in service, collaboration, and curiosity. By making abstract concepts relatable, Amber discusses how she engages her project management students through real-world applications. The conversation highlights the importance of self-reflection, personal growth, and continuous learning in leadership roles, emphasizing that true leadership is about being in service to others and fostering an inclusive, co-learning environment.