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In Episode 22 of the Evolving On Purpose Podcast, Matt Swartz explores the hidden cost of hyper-independence—the "I can do it all myself" mindset that often gets rewarded in business, leadership, and life. While independence is an important stage of growth, many high performers unknowingly take it too far, building walls that limit connection, collaboration, and support.Matt breaks down the developmental journey from dependence to independence to interdependence, explains how hyper-independence and codependence often stem from the same core fears, and shares practical ways to move toward healthier relationships at work, at home, and within yourself.
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What does it really mean to live with autonomy without becoming disconnected from the people you love?In this coaching episode of Evolving on Purpose, Matt Swartz welcomes Lauren Butler back to explore the difference between autonomy, independence, and codependency. Together, they discuss how many people swing between people-pleasing and hyper-independence before finding a healthier balance rooted in self-awareness, connection, and personal responsibility.Lauren shares practical tools for building autonomy, including simple presence practices, navigating relationships without self-abandonment, and learning how to honor your own needs while remaining connected to others. The conversation also dives into parenting, marriage, high achievement, emotional resilience, nervous system regulation, and the everyday moments that shape our lives.Whether you're recovering from codependent patterns, struggling to receive support, or simply looking to create healthier relationships, this episode offers powerful insights and practical wisdom for your journey.instagram.com/lauren_nicole_butler
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In this episode of Evolving On Purpose, Matt Swartz sits down with Lauren Butler, coach, entrepreneur, salon owner, and founder of a transformational framework designed to help emotionally exhausted women reconnect with themselves, heal old wounds, and step into lives of greater alignment, purpose, and joy.Lauren shares her deeply personal journey of overcoming codependency, setting difficult boundaries, and reclaiming her power after years of caring for others at the expense of herself. Together, Matt and Lauren explore the connection between leadership, childhood wounds, high achievement, nervous system regulation, intuition, and living a truly intentional life.Whether you're a leader, entrepreneur, parent, or someone navigating personal growth, this conversation offers powerful insights into healing, self-awareness, and creating lasting transformation.
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What if the success you've been chasing was never going to give you what you're really looking for?In this episode of Evolving On Purpose, Matt explores one of the deepest struggles facing high performers, leaders, entrepreneurs, and achievers: the search for belonging. Drawing from recent conversations with guest Greg, Matt unpacks why achievement, people-pleasing, and constant performance can earn admiration, respect, and results—but still leave us feeling disconnected.You'll learn the difference between belonging and performing, why many successful people feel like they're still auditioning for acceptance, and how the habit of earning love and approval can keep us trapped in cycles of overachievement.🧭 Take Our Free Flow Quiz - https://quiz.evolvinglivespg.com/flowquiz?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=podcast-launch📄 Download the Free "Your Turning Point" PDF - https://lm.evolvinglivespg.com/opt-in?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=podcast-launch🔥 Join "The Campfire" — our Free Weekly Group, Tuesdays @ 1 PM Eastern - https://groups.evolvinglivespg.com/campfire-registration?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=podcast-launch🎙️ Apply to be a Guest on the Evolving on Purpose Podcast - https://podcast.evolvinglivespg.com/guest-application?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=guest_recruiting
In this coaching conversation, Matt Swartz sits down with executive coach and leadership advisor Greg Kaple to explore the hidden patterns that shape our relationships, leadership, and personal growth.Greg shares how his journey through sales, entrepreneurship, executive leadership, divorce, and personal transformation led him to a powerful realization: many of us spend our lives forcing connections, seeking approval, and sacrificing our own well-being in pursuit of belonging. Together, Matt and Greg unpack the difference between healthy interdependence and unhealthy codependence, the importance of listening to the wisdom of the body, and why setting boundaries can be one of the most difficult—and necessary—acts of self-leadership.
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In this powerful episode of Evolving on Purpose, Matt Swartz sits down with executive coach, speaker, and former healthcare executive Greg Kaple to explore the hidden cost of high achievement—and what happens when success is no longer enough.Greg shares his remarkable journey from Microsoft intern, top-performing sales executive, entrepreneur, and healthcare leader to experiencing a life-altering breakdown that forced him to confront deep-rooted patterns of performance, pressure, and identity. Together, Matt and Greg unpack panic attacks, burnout, adoption trauma, nervous system regulation, masculinity, community, healing, and the challenge of rebuilding a life aligned with purpose.
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In this episode of Evolving on Purpose, Matt Swartz explores the difference between machine-based thinking and organic growth. Drawing from personal stories, leadership experience, nature, and years of helping leaders and business owners grow, Matt unpacks why shame, impatience, and unrealistic expectations keep so many people trapped.Whether you're building a business, leading a team, growing a family, or simply trying to become the person you're meant to be, this conversation offers a powerful new framework for understanding growth. Instead of forcing results or waiting for success to magically appear, you'll learn how real growth happens through cultivation, consistency, patience, and purpose.🧭 Take Our Free Flow Quiz - https://quiz.evolvinglivespg.com/flowquiz?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=podcast-launch📄 Download the Free "Your Turning Point" PDF - https://lm.evolvinglivespg.com/opt-in?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=podcast-launch🔥 Join "The Campfire" — our Free Weekly Group, Tuesdays @ 1 PM Eastern - https://groups.evolvinglivespg.com/campfire-registration?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=podcast-launch🎙️ Apply to be a Guest on the Evolving on Purpose Podcast - https://podcast.evolvinglivespg.com/guest-application?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=guest_recruiting
In this coaching-style episode of Evolving on Purpose, Matt Swartz sits down with ADHD coach and founder of the League of Spiritual Gentlemen, Dave O'Dwyer, for an honest conversation about leadership, impostor syndrome, entrepreneurship, fear of success, and the emotional challenges that come with building something meaningful.Dave shares his journey from chef to coach, the struggle of putting himself out there online, navigating self-doubt, serving others ethically, and building a community that is changing lives. Together, Matt and Dave explore emotional resilience, ADHD entrepreneurship, healing, business growth, and how to keep moving forward when uncertainty feels overwhelming.If you've ever wondered whether you're qualified, feared success, struggled with self-worth, or felt called to build something bigger than yourself, this conversation is for you.
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In this episode of Evolving on Purpose, Matt Swartz sits down with Dave O'Dwyer — men's ADHD coach, community builder, and founder of the League of Spiritual Gentlemen.
Dave shares his personal journey with ADHD, addiction recovery, shame, emotional regulation, masculinity, self-acceptance, and learning how to build meaningful community with other men.
After being diagnosed with ADHD as a child, Dave spent years believing he was broken and searching for fulfillment through external achievements, relationships, and other unhealthy patterns. His recovery journey forced him to confront the deeper emotional patterns underneath his struggles and learn how to accept himself.
Today, Dave helps men develop maturity, assertiveness, nurturing leadership, emotional awareness, and self-reliance while creating spaces where men can talk honestly about what they're going through.
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In this episode of Evolving On Purpose, Matt Swartz explores the difference between living in prevention mode and creation mode. Why do so many leaders, entrepreneurs, and high performers spend their energy trying to avoid problems instead of building the life, business, and impact they truly want?
Drawing on lessons from a coaching session with therapist and practice owner Sarah Rollins, Matt shares powerful insights about resilience, growth, fear, control, and what it means to build something organically rather than mechanically.
If you've ever felt stuck in anxiety, over-planning, perfectionism, or the need to control outcomes, this episode offers a different path: stop trying to prevent every storm and start growing the roots that can weather them.
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