A day after announcing he would not run for re-election, Rep. Patrick McHenry joins Tim to talk about why he’s retiring and what’s next. 

He also goes in depth on his time temporarily leading the U.S. House as Republicans battled to pick a new speaker to replace Kevin McCarthy who was ousted. 

We’ll learn whether he ever considered long term or short term becoming actual House Speaker, and hear the impact the stress had on his own life.