After a brief hiatus—spent presenting at a conference and enjoying the holidays—hosts Lauren Skuba and Paige Sutula return with a fresh episode of Love in Lyrics. This time, they delve into Taylor Swift’s evocative track "Exile," exploring its emotional depths through an attachment-based lens rooted in Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT).

In this episode, they examine how sending subtle signals to try to get our needs met can contribute to feelings of disconnection in relationships. The discussion touches on the common fantasy that our partners should instinctively understand our desires, while also unpacking how conflicting attachment strategies—intended to protect us—can inadvertently create distance.

With insightful commentary and relatable examples, this episode bridges the gap between lyrical interpretation and real-life relational challenges. Whether you’re a devoted Swiftie or simply curious about the complexities of love and attachment, join Paige and Lauren for another musically enriching and emotionally enlightening conversation.

For more information about Lauren and Paige, please visit their websites:

Lauren Skuba, MA, LMFT

www.positivespace-therapy.com

Paige Sutula, MA, MFTC

www.rockymountainrelationaltherapy.com/paige-sutula