Exit Algorithms

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Bob Campana built businesses across hot tub manufacturing, pool construction, plumbing services, real estate, and hospitality over five decades. He is the author of Don't Look Down! and hosts the Get Back to Work podcast.

He turned a $1,700 purchase of World War Two era redwood pipe into roughly 200 hot tubs, then grew that into a pool and landscaping company with 170 employees doing close to $20 million a year. Selling it took three years of preparation.

In this episode, Pete Vera and Bob cover the runway you need before a sale, why lifestyle expensing destroys your multiple, and how recurring revenue changes what a buyer will pay.

WHAT YOU WILL LEARN

1. Why an SBA buyer needs three years of clean tax returns, meaning a four year runway
2. How writing personal costs through the business lowers your sale price
3. Why he spent three years building an operations manual before going to market
4. How removing himself as the bottleneck made the business sellable
5. Why recurring revenue is the biggest lever on your multiple

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Meet Bob Campana
02:00 Turning a $1,700 redwood pipe into 200 hot tubs
03:26 Scaling to 170 employees and $20 million
06:00 The flat rate pricing model
12:56 Deciding to sell at 50
13:38 Cleaning up the books
14:12 The operations manual that raised the price
16:18 How long preparation actually takes
18:39 Technician to manager to owner
27:45 How AI compares to past disruptions
30:29 Bob's practical tip

Running trucks, travel, and personal costs through the business saves money now and costs you a multiple later, because a lender compares what you told the government against what you tell a buyer.

CONNECT WITH BOB
https://www.bobcampana.com
https://www.youtube.com/@GetBack2Workk
Book: Don't Look Down! on Amazon

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Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-algorithms/id1820424898

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Dr. Danura Miriyagalla has 25 years of leadership experience across public policy, business, research, and creative practice, having lived in seven countries and worked across more than 20. He is Head of the Australia for ASEAN Futures Technical Services and Support Program at Tetra Tech International Development and the author of The Navigator's Pivot: A Reflective Guide to Work-Life Transitions.amazon+1

In this episode, Pete Vera and Danura discuss the transition owners face after a sale, how to build trust across a team during ownership change, and why the skill AI cannot replace is judgment under uncertainty.

WHAT YOU WILL LEARN

1. Why a pivot is never a clean break from who you were
2. The mistake of assuming success at the sale guarantees success after it
3. How disorientation after an exit can linger and compound
4. Why you should map what is next before closing, not after
5. How trust gets built differently across cultures and virtual teams
6. Why leading through ownership change starts with respecting context
7. What makes a person valuable in an AI-heavy market

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Meet Dr. Danura Miriyagalla
02:18 What a pivot actually involves
04:00 Why uncertainty is now the normal condition
05:36 The mistake owners make before a transition
07:44 Preparing for the identity shift after selling
09:53 Leading a team through an ownership change
12:10 Respecting context as a leadership discipline
13:39 Building trust across diverse teams
15:31 Managing culture across multiple countries
18:07 The three groups of people responding to AI
19:37 Why judgment under uncertainty cannot be automated
22:39 Danura's practical tip

WHY THIS MATTERS FOR LOGISTICS OWNERS

Owners who spent decades building a trucking or 3PL company often define themselves by it. Danura's point is that confidence at closing does not carry over automatically. Mapping the next chapter before the deal, and preparing your team for the culture shift a new owner brings, protects both your transition and the value of what you sold.

CONNECT WITH DANURA

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danura-miriyagalla-09711420
Book: The Navigator's Pivot, available on Amazon and other online stores

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Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-algorithms/id1820424898

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Marla Capozzi is a McKinsey partner and a founder of CEO Alpha, the firm's initiative studying what makes private capital CEOs outperform. She and her colleagues researched nearly 300 CEOs across private equity and private capital companies, and their findings were published in Harvard Business Review. She has been with McKinsey for 26 years, helped found McKinsey Academy, and was the first woman to chair the Babson College board of trustees.

In this episode, Pete Vera and Marla discuss what private equity sponsors actually diligence, why the equity narrative makes or breaks a deal, and how to treat talent as a value creation lever instead of a cost center.

WHAT YOU WILL LEARN

1. Why private companies now outnumber public ones three to one
2. The difference between hitting your targets and achieving full potential
3. Why sponsors walk away when the equity narrative does not hold together
4. How to plan your exit on day one and work backward to today
5. Why most owners prepare for the downside and never for the upside
6. How one CEO used talent and succession as his exit story
7. Why a team of leaders is not the same as a leadership team

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Meet Marla Capozzi
02:51 Why the private capital CEO role is fundamentally different
05:11 Full potential versus hitting targets
06:38 Understanding unit economics without micromanaging
08:05 Assessing your leadership team honestly
10:07 Building a business that runs without you
11:57 Why side conversations kill alignment
14:55 Choosing KPIs that actually drive value
16:20 The equity narrative sponsors want to see
18:18 Scenario planning for the upside, not just the downside
19:39 Comparing the internet era to AI
24:44 Talent as a value creation lever
26:50 The CEO who made succession part of his exit story
28:20 Marla's practical tip

WHY THIS MATTERS FOR LOGISTICS OWNERS

Marla's equity narrative point is the gap we see most often in trucking and 3PL deals. Owners can describe what they built but not why the next owner wins. Buyers are also pricing talent risk, so having a named successor, a leadership team ready for the next two years, and documented culture removes questions a buyer would otherwise discount you for.

CONNECT WITH MARLA

Private Capital Insights: https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marla-capozzi
McKinsey profile: https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/marla-capozzi

LISTEN
YouTube: https://youtube.com/ExitAlgorithms
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2lTaP8U9DIJhI0VbwHn5t9
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-algorithms/id1820424898

#PrivateEquity #ExitPlanning #BusinessValuation #Leadership

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Nathan Baws has built more than 19 businesses across health retail, supplements, food, wellness, and bookkeeping, with multiple seven-figure exits. He pitched Tommy Sugo on Shark Tank Australia in 2015 and secured a deal with Boost Juice founder Janine Allis, holds a Guinness World Record for the largest simultaneous ice bath, and co-authored an international bestseller with Tony Robbins and Brian Tracy.linkedin+2

In this episode, Pete Vera and Nathan cover why documented SOPs are the difference between selling a business and selling a job, what it costs to scale before testing demand, and how to run guerrilla marketing when you know your numbers.

WHAT YOU WILL LEARN

1. Why buyers pay more for a business with documented standard operating procedures
2. How to build a working SOP in two to three months and complete it over twelve
3. Why Nathan opened three restaurants before testing demand, and what it cost
4. How to reach the same outcome without heavy capital and infrastructure
5. Why he sold three stores and told every buyer not to change the formula
6. How knowing your numbers makes bold marketing feel low risk
7. Where AI cold calling actually works, and where it still gives itself away

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Meet Nathan Baws
01:15 From potatoes to 19 businesses
03:54 The restaurant expansion that lost money
05:06 His filter before starting anything new
06:19 Eight years learning from a mentor before going solo
08:36 Preparing the health shops for sale
10:39 Why SOPs make a transaction smooth
13:37 How long it takes to document a business
14:46 The Shark Tank pitch and what came after
17:22 The Tower Bridge stunt that sold a London property
21:22 Writing with Tony Robbins and Brian Tracy
27:35 Using AI for lead generation and cold calling
30:23 Why your offer matters more than your tool
33:44 Nathan's practical tip

WHY THIS MATTERS FOR LOGISTICS OWNERS

Nathan's SOP point is the same thing strategic buyers tell us when valuing a 3PL or trucking company. If the process lives in the owner's head, the buyer is acquiring a job and prices it accordingly. A documented manual covering daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, and annual tasks lets you step back before you sell and prove the business runs without you.

CONNECT WITH NATHAN

Website: https://nathanbaws.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-baws
Numberfied: bookkeeping built around business growth
Free monthly business problem-solving session available through his website

LISTEN
YouTube: https://youtube.com/ExitAlgorithms
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2lTaP8U9DIJhI0VbwHn5t9
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-algorithms/id1820424898

#ExitPlanning #BusinessValuation #SOPs #LogisticsBusiness

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Bryan Durkin has spent more than 25 years building B2B businesses. He founded InfoStore, a document management company that scaled from a couple of banker's boxes a day to roughly 300,000 images a day with a team of about 250 people, then sold his interest in 2004. Today he is the founder and CEO of MVP Inner Circle and the author of Stuck on First: The 9 Positions of a Playoff Ready Business.

In this episode, Pete Vera and Bryan discuss why he believes he exited too early, what buyers actually look for in the books, how to grow revenue from existing customers, and how to build authority that AI search engines can find.

WHAT YOU WILL LEARN

1. Why buy-sell agreements can force an exit you did not want
2. How lifestyle expenses destroy the multiple a buyer will pay
3. Why a business line of credit raises enterprise value
4. How small increases across multiple metrics compound into 30 to 40 percent growth
5. Why documented SOPs plus an AI repository beat binders nobody reads
6. How to get found in AI search by publishing real expert conversations

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Meet Bryan Durkin
01:11 Selling eggs and corn at ten years old
03:35 Scaling to 300,000 images a day
08:55 Why he should not have sold
11:16 The seven processes that nearly sank the business
13:34 What underselling actually cost him
17:05 What buyers see in dirty books and lifestyle expenses
19:42 Cash flow, payment terms, and line of credit value
25:54 Geometric growth from customers you already have
29:13 The most common mistakes he sees
35:10 Building invisible authority for AI search
40:38 Bryan's practical tip

WHY THIS MATTERS FOR LOGISTICS OWNERS

Bryan's point about lifestyle expenses lands hard in trucking. Trucks, boats, and personal costs run through the P&L may save you on taxes, but they crush what a buyer will pay. Clean books, a real credit facility, and marketing systems that run without you are what separate a sellable company from a job.

CONNECT WITH BRYAN

MVP Inner Circle: https://mvpinnercircle.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryandurkin
Book: Stuck on First, available on Amazon
New program: MVP Authority Hub

LISTEN
YouTube: https://youtube.com/ExitAlgorithms
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2lTaP8U9DIJhI0VbwHn5t9
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-algorithms/id1820424898

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Tad Nelson founded The Law Offices of Tad Nelson & Associates in 1994. He has tried more than 400 jury trials, has been Board Certified in Criminal Law by the Texas Board of Legal Specialization since 1996, holds a Master's in Forensic Toxicology, and is one of the few Texas attorneys recognized as an ACS-CHAL Forensic Lawyer-Scientist.

In this episode, Pete Vera and Tad discuss building a multi-office firm, hiring for culture, documenting every process, and using AI as a force multiplier instead of a replacement.

WHAT YOU WILL LEARN

1. Why the client journey matters as much as the result
2. How a client success manager role improved retention and referrals
3. Why finding good people is the hardest part of expanding locations
4. How Tad builds culture with books, expectations, and leading by example
5. Why most professionals stall out from lack of desire, not lack of opportunity
6. How AI transcription and file review compress hours of work into seconds
7. Why fixing an intake blind spot can be worth hundreds of thousands in revenue

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Meet Tad Nelson
02:38 Big city experience with small town values
05:51 What 400 jury trials teach you about people
09:00 What it takes to run a multi-office firm
10:14 How Tad built the culture
11:47 The biggest mistake professionals make when growing
15:35 Using AI across research, marketing, and operations
17:42 Writing every protocol and procedure
20:54 Whether AI will replace lawyers
23:26 The intake blind spot worth half a million dollars
25:54 Tad's tip: treat every client the same

WHY THIS MATTERS FOR LOGISTICS OWNERS

Tad's growth pattern applies directly to trucking and 3PL companies. Document every process, hire ahead of the breaking point, fix the leaks in your intake before spending more on marketing, and remember that if you are standing still, competitors are passing you.

CONNECT WITH TAD

Website: https://tadlaw.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tadanelson
Instagram: @tad_nelson
TikTok: @tad.nelson

LISTEN
YouTube: https://youtube.com/ExitAlgorithms
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2lTaP8U9DIJhI0VbwHn5t9
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-algorithms/id1820424898

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Jason Brown grew a trading account to roughly $300,000, then risked a quarter million trying to make half a million and lost nearly all of it. He moved back home and sold his car. Today he runs The Brown Report and Power Trades University and wrote the bestseller Five-Year Millionaire.

In this episode, Pete Vera and Jason discuss risk management, emotional discipline, building a brand a buyer can actually own, and using AI to build real products.

WHAT YOU WILL LEARN

1. Why you should define your "I'm wrong" level before taking any risk
2. How consistent profits beat waiting for one enormous win
3. Why Jason rebranded so the business could be sold without his last name
4. How he learned to sell online after nobody bought his first course
5. Why AI tools only work when built on real domain expertise
6. How to run a small business with Fortune 500 discipline on a small budget

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Meet Jason Brown
02:46 Losing his graduation money and starting with $500
07:11 Why you never go broke taking a profit
13:58 Learning how to actually sell online
16:33 Why he built a second brand he could sell
19:41 Why he avoids IPOs without a track record
23:48 The mindset that separates winners from quitters
27:21 Building AI tools with real domain expertise
33:07 Jason's tip: run it like a Fortune 500 from day one

If your company carries your name, depends on your relationships, and lives in your head, buyers see risk instead of value.

CONNECT WITH JASON
https://thebrownreport.com
https://powertradesuniversity.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbrown1124

LISTEN
YouTube: https://youtube.com/ExitAlgorithms
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2lTaP8U9DIJhI0VbwHn5t9
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-algorithms/id1820424898

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AI is changing how private equity buyers evaluate companies. A business that looks valuable today could become obsolete before the sale closes.

In this episode, Pete Vera speaks with Diana Vainberga, Partner at DevelopX, about AI due diligence, data-driven value creation, and preparing a company for a successful exit. Diana advises private equity investors, management teams, and founders across transaction advisory, deal readiness, and AI-led value creation.

YOU’LL LEARN

1. What private equity buyers evaluate before investing
2. How AI disruption can reduce or destroy business value
3. Why using ChatGPT does not make a company AI-ready
4. How poor data creates risk during due diligence
5. Why founders should prepare years before a sale
6. How customer, product, pricing, and channel data reveal growth opportunities
7. Why a focused equity story attracts stronger buyer interest
8. How AI can improve operational efficiency after an acquisition

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Meet Diana Vainberga
01:04 Diana’s international M&A background
02:04 How DevelopX supports the deal cycle
03:02 What private equity buyers want
04:41 Measuring AI opportunity and disruption risk
06:42 Why data quality determines AI performance
09:58 What kills deals during due diligence
11:27 How to prepare a business for sale
16:31 Data-driven value creation explained
20:46 Turning business data into growth initiatives
22:20 Using AI to improve operational efficiency
25:27 Diana’s practical exit-readiness advice

CONNECT WITH DIANA

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/diana-vainberga-048a465a
DevelopX: https://developx.com

DevelopX provides commercial, technical, digital, and AI due diligence through an integrated team.

ABOUT EXIT ALGORITHMS

Exit Algorithms helps owners unlock growth, streamline operations, reduce business risk, and prepare for a high-value exit.

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Can your business continue growing without you?

In this episode of Exit Algorithms, Pete Vera speaks with Brady Pyle, former NASA HR executive and current Chief HR and Inclusion Officer at Space Center Houston. Brady shares practical NASA leadership lessons for building a strong culture, developing future leaders, reducing owner dependence, and preparing a business for growth or acquisition.

Brady spent nearly 30 years at NASA, earned the NASA Outstanding Leadership Medal twice, and now translates NASA’s leadership principles into practical strategies for organizations of every size.

YOU’LL LEARN

– How NASA creates a culture of trust and innovation
– Why leaders should ask questions instead of providing every answer
– How to make intelligent failure safe inside your organization
– Why leadership depth increases the value of a business
– How to reduce key-person risk and owner dependence
– How the 70-20-10 model develops stronger leaders
– Why technical experts do not always make effective managers
– How to use AI as a “smart intern” without trusting it blindly

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 – Meet former NASA HR executive Brady Pyle
00:49 – Brady’s 30-year NASA leadership journey
04:40 – Building Culture the NASA Way
08:24 – Leadership lessons from the Columbia tragedy
11:12 – Creating a culture where intelligent failure is safe
14:43 – Preparing employees for an acquisition
17:17 – Leading a team through major change
18:59 – Eliminating owner dependence and key-person risk
21:40 – NASA’s 70-20-10 leadership development model
24:56 – A common leadership development mistake
26:13 – How AI is changing HR and leadership
29:33 – Brady’s practical culture-building advice

CONNECT WITH BRADY

Website: https://bradypyle.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradyapyle
Book: Building Culture the NASA Way

Brady’s framework focuses on navigating the existing culture, assessing and adapting it, strengthening leadership, and activating inclusion and innovation.

ABOUT EXIT ALGORITHMS

Exit Algorithms helps business owners unlock growth, streamline operations, reduce owner dependence, and prepare for a high-value exit.

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Will your business still be relevant, scalable, and sellable three years from now?

In this episode, Pete Vera speaks with Vasyl “Vince Solo” Soloshchuk, founder and CEO of INSART, about adapting to market shifts, building a repeatable sales engine, using AI strategically, and preparing for a future acquisition. INSART helps B2B technology and fintech companies validate, modernize, and scale their businesses.

You’ll learn:

– Why successful companies become obsolete
– When founders should delegate sales
– What investors look for before writing a check
– How to build toward specific strategic buyers
– Where AI can improve repetitive workflows
– Why financial analytics can increase business value

For logistics owners, the lesson is simple: do not assume today’s business model will survive the next market cycle. Build a company that can adapt, make decisions using reliable data, and grow without depending entirely on you.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Meet Vince Solo
03:22 Why businesses must keep evolving
06:53 Lessons from a logistics investment
09:18 Leadership determines adaptability
11:06 When founders should delegate sales
13:37 What investors want to see
17:12 Building for a strategic buyer
20:30 Using AI to improve operations
24:18 The best exit-planning tip

CONNECT WITH VINCE

INSART: https://insart.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vsolo

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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exit-algorithms/id1820424898

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