In our debut episode, we chat with Gustavo (he/him) on his transition away from competitive sports, the lesson he is learning as a new student in surfing, and how those of us who hold privilege can be better allies when planning outdoor activities with folks from marginalized communities.

E.T.O believes in providing proper compensation to folks who volunteer to speak on the podcast as their stories hold immense value. Along with offering $25 to each speaker, we encourage our listeners to make a donation to the speaker. Gustavo’s Venmo is @TheGustavoRivera.