Thinking of making the move to Portugal? You're not alone! So many folks have recently made the move or are planning it now. Stop reading articles that tell you how idyllic and perfect your life will be here. There are phenomenal things about living in Portugal, but you also need to hear some of the hard truths of what you need to accept if you want to live here. So let's get going. Don't move to Portugal unless.......

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We know these can be loaded words! Ryan and Liz talk through what it means to be an expat, and what it means to be an immigrant, both in theory and in practice. We share some stories of how we 🇿🇦🇺🇸 are labeled and treated, and Psychologist Ryan talks through how difficult it can be to be shoved into a box that might not feel like you fit into. Our show is called Expats Listen, but we identify as both, and we are most definitely here for the Immigrants just as much as the Expats!

Hosts Ryan and Liz met in an airport. Yep, really. Hear the whole story of how we met in the airport in Muscat, Oman. A listener question is answered about intercultural relationships. We wrap it up with our first ever "Would you rather?" with the choices of South Africa versus the USA.

Our first episode! Meet hosts Ryan 🙋🏾‍♂️🇿🇦 and Liz 💁🏼‍♀️🇺🇸 and see what we have in store for this podcast, a place to be real about the ups and downs of living abroad for expats and immigrants.