In Episode 13, Erin interviews Dr. Meg Jay, a developmental clinical psychologist who specializes in 20-somethings. A recent New York Times profile called Dr. Jay “the patron saint of striving youth” and her TED talk “Why 30 Is Not the New 20” is among the most watched to date. Erin and Meg discuss the current mental health crisis, pros and cons of medication, what the research shows about your 20s, and advice on how to spend your 20s (especially when it comes to feeling stuck or behind in your career!). Enjoy!

➞ In this episode:

0:00-3:39 Introduction

3:40-7:09 Meg Jay's Background

7:10-11:54 Realistic life working as a therapist

11:55-14:09 Fascinating 20-somethings research

14:10-15:39 Why your 20s aren't the best years of your life

15:40-17:24 Advice if you don't know what to do with your life

17:25-22:00 How to pick a job in your 20s

22:01-24:21 Thoughts on a "dream job"

24:22-27:30 Opportunity cost + decision making

27:31-32:34 What is "identity capital"?

32:35-35:59 Gen Z mental health crisis

36:00-38:59 Labels & self-diagnosis

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