Joby Warrick is a best-selling author and a national security correspondent for The Washington Post. A two-time Pulitzer Prize winner, he served for 24 years with the Post's national and investigative staffs, reporting from Washington and scores of cities around the world. He is the author of three two nonfiction books, including "The Triple Agent", a New York Times best-seller about a CIA operation in Afghanistan; "Red Line", and "Black Flags", a narrative account of the personalities and events that gave rise to the Islamic State. "Black Flags" was listed as one of the best books of 2015 by the New York Times, The Washington Post, the San Francisco Chronicle, and numerous other publications, and it was the recipient of the 2016 Pulitzer Prize for general non-fiction.

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TIMESTAMPS

01:35 The most surprising thing about ISIS

03:30 Abu Musab al-Zarqawi

06:45 Afghanistan after the Soviet Union

08:00 Zarqawi in al-Jafr prison

10:05 Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi

13:00 Al-Qaida of Iraq, and Zarqawi's weaponization of religion

17:30 Black Flags

20:00 The US invasion of Iraq

28:00 Big pause after Zarqawi

31:50 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and the Rise of ISIS

38:00 A typical ISIS Fighter

40:30 New ISIS

43:10 Roots of Islamic Radicalization

47:00 Joby's books