In this episode we talk to guests Angela Catley a consultant with MacIntyre, and Connor, who is part of MacIntyre's i4t training team and also draws on our support in Chesterfield.

We discuss how Angela has been using her external perspective to work with staff teams in Chesterfield to develop new ideas and look at Everyone Everywhere with new eyes.

We also hear from Angela about her project with Sian Lockwood, When I Get Old.

Connor, together with Carole Hodgson from MacIntyre, explains his training and volunteer work, and what they mean for him in his life.