The MacIntyre Podcast

We were delighted to talk to Fiona Charnock, Senior Project Manager, NHS Greater Manchester, and Jane Bellwood, NHS England Senior Housing Lead.

We explore how social care providers, local authorities and housing providers work together to support people out of long-stay hospitals to their own homes in the community.

We talk about what this means for people and their families, and the particular model used in Greater Manchester to make the process smoother.

You'll find a link to the transcript here.

In this episode, we talk with MacIntyre’s Sarah Kilby about what Positive Behaviour Support (PBS) really means, and why MacIntyre puts compassion first.

Drawing on more than three decades in social care, alongside her own lived experience of neurodiversity and family life, Sarah explains how behaviour is often a form of communication rather than something to be “managed” or controlled. Together, they explore why understanding a person’s environment, relationships, history and unmet needs can transform support.

Sarah discusses MacIntyre’s compassion-first approach to PBS, the importance of being trauma-informed and neuro-affirming, and explains why “fix the environment, not the flower” has become such a powerful way of understanding support.

The conversation also explores MacIntyre’s Homes Not Hospitals work and how, with the right support and relationships, people can move from institutional settings into “gloriously ordinary lives" in their communities.

Along the way, Sarah shares practical examples, challenges common misunderstandings around PBS, and reflects on what the people she supports have taught her over the years.

In this episode, we speak with dementia campaigner and long-time MacIntyre collaborator Beth Britton about her personal journey into the sector, shaped by caring for her father, and the work she has led since.

We explore Beth’s longstanding partnership with MacIntyre, the growing link between learning disability - in particular Down Syndrome - and dementia, and the development of new, sector-leading training on dementia and bereavement. Beth also reflects on co-designing courses with people with lived experience, the importance of communication and environment in care, and the impact of getting support right.

Plus, Beth shares the story behind her recent MBE and what continues to drive her work today.

If this content interests you, sign up for the next course from ARC England, on loss and bereavement on 19 May. Link here.

In this episode we hear from Matty Caine of First Person Project, who is also a Trustee at MacIntyre.

Matty worked as a registered mental health nurse for many years before a personal loss gave him the final push he needed to set up the community social enterprise First Person Project, dedicated to providing innovative mental health services and community connections in Liverpool.

Listen to discover Matty's views on supporting good mental health, how we can all help each other, and how his work links to his role as a Trustee at MacIntyre.

In this episode, we are joined by a familiar voice at MacIntyre: Nicola Payne, former podcast host and now Best Practice Manager, to talk about her 20-year journey with the organisation and the launch of an ambitious new way of working, the Innovation Hub.

Nicola reflects on starting out as a support worker in Milton Keynes moving through roles in our community coffee shop, dementia-focused project work, family engagement, and eventually into strategic best practice. A clear thread runs through her story: learning. From picking up new skills on the frontline to seeking out specialist knowledge and bringing it back into practice, Nicola describes a career shaped by curiosity and courage.

The conversation then turns to the Innovation Hub, a dedicated space designed to help MacIntyre focus on change more deliberately and collaboratively. Rather than lots of disconnected initiatives happening in parallel, the Hub provides a structured, joined-up approach to projects, allowing ideas to be tested, refined, and learned from (even when things don’t go quite to plan). Nicola is open about the importance of allowing room for mistakes, reflection, and honesty, and how this culture of trust underpins improvement.

The Hub’s first major focus is self-advocacy and co-production. Nicola explains the aim to ensure that, by the end of 2026, every local area across MacIntyre has access to advocacy, creating real, everyday opportunities for people with learning disabilities and autistic people to have their voices heard and influence decision-making at all levels. She shares insights from the team’s recent roadshows, where people with lived experience have been central from the very start, helping shape the work and connecting with others across the organisation.

She also describes the value of MacIntyre's collaboration with external friends such as Beth Britton, Debs Aspland, ARC England and Learning Disability England.

In this episode we talk with MacIntyre's Cath Kelly, Area Manager in Greater Manchester.

She describes MacIntyre's successful involvement in the Homes not Hospitals initiative.

Far too many people with learning disabilities and/or mental health issues are trapped in long-stay secure hospitals, often for years, causing huge distress to the person, and at huge expense to the taxpayer.

Cath describes the way in which MacIntyre provides an alternative which works for all concerned.

In this episode to mark Safeguarding Week 2025, we're delighted to welcome Stuart Sale, the CEO of the Ann Craft Trust charity.

MacIntyre works closely with Ann Craft Trust, which was set up 30 years ago to support people with a learning disability to live full, rich lives, while remaining safe.

In this episode, Stuart discusses the way in which Ann Craft Trust supports MacIntyre and our Head of Compliance and Safeguarding, Rowan Jackson.

He describes some unusual ways in which Ann Craft Trust is focusing on "eyes and ears" in the community, using training to give roles such as park-keepers the ability to become active bystanders.

Stuart urges us all to go green for Safeguarding Week this year and start conversations about the importance of safeguarding and prevention of abuse.

We hear from Carly Morrissey, MacIntyre's Area Manager for Wrexham and The Wirral, about the proactive approach MacIntyre takes to Safeguarding, supported by 'critical friend' The Ann Craft Trust.

Carly outlines the differences and similarities between the Welsh and English jurisdictions, and how she and all MacIntyre's staff are continually learning and challenging outdated practices.

She recognises the important work by Rowan Jackson, MacIntyre's Head of Compliance and Safeguarding, and her team, in developing our resources.

We explore how crucial it is for people supported by MacIntyre to be part of their local communities, shown in our Everyone Everywhere approach.

Content warning: in the context of a discussion about mental health towards the end of this podcast episode, there is a brief mention of suicide.

In this special episode we hear about their different (and similar) experiences of living with ADHD from father and son duo Duncan and William Strachan.

In this episode we talk to guests Angela Catley a consultant with MacIntyre, and Connor, who is part of MacIntyre's i4t training team and also draws on our support in Chesterfield.

We discuss how Angela has been using her external perspective to work with staff teams in Chesterfield to develop new ideas and look at Everyone Everywhere with new eyes.

We also hear from Angela about her project with Sian Lockwood, When I Get Old.

Connor, together with Carole Hodgson from MacIntyre, explains his training and volunteer work, and what they mean for him in his life.