Guest Introduction: This is Exploring the Seasons of Life podcast episode 30. I’m Cindy MacMillan and today’s guest is Dora Carpenter.
Welcome to Exploring the Seasons of Life, a podcast for women with a big heart on a spiritual journey. Each week, join Cindy MacMillan as she interviews coaches, spiritual explorers and celebrants from all walks of life about beginnings, endings and the messy bits in-between. Self-love, well-being, and mindset are at the heart of our conversations because once you change the inside, the outside will begin to change as well.
Welcome back to Exploring the Seasons of Life podcast and thank you for listening, and being here today. Whether you are a long-time listener or this is your first exposure to the podcast. I really do appreciate you.
Dora Carpenter is a certified professional coach and founder of the Institute of Professional Grief Coaching and program director of the From Grief to Gratitude Coach Certification Program, an International Coaching Federation (ICF) accredited program. Working many years in the death care industry birthed her passion for grief coaching. As coach trainer, author, speaker, and mentor, she has appeared on various media outlets.
This is a special episode for me because today’s guest has been my Coach and Mentor as I have been going through the From Grief to Gratitude Coach Certification Program. So I am feeling all warm and fuzzy.
Here’s a glimpse of our conversation: (02:07) That's a wonderful question, actually, Cindy, I love that exploring the seasons of life. And when I think about it, I just have so many perspectives just on the term seasons, because I think I equate it all to the word change, which to me is just the common denominator in life. Whether in business or professionally or personally, it just to me indicates that the natural ebb and flow of life in general, but more importantly, then the change or the seasons is how we respond to them or how we react to them. Do we learn from them? Do we grow from them? Do we look at them? I think every season has goodies. So, what's the experience. What's the message?
(06:46) And it was during those aftercare appointments that families wanted to talk, they wanted to share. They wanted to share with me about their loved ones. They wanted to look at scrapbooks. And when I would return to the office, the following day, I was pretty much always chastised for spending more than the required length of time in the home. And so, what I realized was that the families really needed us more after what we call task mode.
(09:00) That's a great question. And they are extremely heightened and even more so this year, but it's a time when it's supposed to be a happy time, a joyous time, family togetherness, the sights, the sounds, the smell of the holiday, but when one's hope, dreams and expectations have been shattered, then it's not so much of a happy time for them.
(14:48) When that family circle has been broken, you might be low on energy. You may not have any holiday spirit. You may actually be eligible for an Academy Award for just pretending to be okay, let family members and others know that I may not. I may not attend the traditional Thanksgiving. Well, you may not be able to attend due to the pandemic but let them know what you feel comfortable doing, limit again, those number of commitments. And it's important to know that it's okay to say no, even if the tradition is via Zoom, if you don't feel up to it, it's okay to say no.
(23:14) That's my newest passion project because there's little or no grief education in corporate America and is as you know, from class, that medical students don't even have grief education as a part of their required curriculum. So when corporate America gives us three to five days off after losing a loved one, what that means is you're supposed to return to that office space as a fully functioning employee. And for those who have lost loved ones, they know that that's really not possible.
(26:28) You want me to go all the way back? You know what though, honestly, I would share my mantra for life. And my mantra for life is this, please know that everything in life is temporary, including life itself. So decide to say yes to the gift of now, because whether you're 18 or whether you're 98 or whether you're 108, decide to say yes to the gift of now, the present, that's why they call it a gift because that's all we really have.
Resources Mentioned: The Magic of Thinking Big by David J. Schwartz
In Tune With The Infinite - The Original Classic Edition From 1897 by Ralph Waldo Trine
You can find Dora Carpenter at: Website Thank you for listening to this week's episode of Exploring the Seasons of Life and my conversation with Dora Carpenter.
You heard Dora and I talking about the From Grief to Gratitude Coach Certification Program and I am so happy and so proud to say I have completed all requirements and I am now a From Grief to Gratitude Certified Coach. I am powerfully committed to showing up every day aligned to my mission: to guide and support women as they face their sadness, reconnect with their lives, and find a way forward.
When you’re ready to work through your grief, I’m here to guide you.
Writer, teacher, and psychotherapist Francis Weller said, “I am not suggesting that we live a life preoccupied with sorrow. I am saying that our refusal to welcome the sorrows that come to us, our inability to move through these experiences with true presence and conscious awareness, condemns us to a life shadowed by grief. Welcoming everything that comes to us is the challenge. This is the secret to being fully alive.”
You can reach me via the website CynthiaMacMillan.com or email me at [email protected].
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Until next time, live inspired.
If you enjoyed this conversation with Dora Carpenter, you might also enjoy these other episodes: Hard Conversations + Solace in Nature with Sarah McInerney
Reimagining the Possible with Cancer Coach, Marisa Harris
Beauty in Every Season with Debra Healey