“The moment we try to please another and abandon our own truth for theirs, we essentially hand our power to them, violate our own integrity, cut ourselves off from our inner wisdom, and at least for a while, disconnect from our ability to love and nurture ourselves.” ~ Debbie Ford
Guest Introduction: Welcome to another episode of Exploring the Seasons of Life, a podcast for women with a big heart on a spiritual journey. I’m your host Cindy MacMillan and I’m joined today by Nicole Baker.
Each week, I interview coaches and spiritual explorers from all walks of life about beginnings, endings and the messy bits in-between. Self-love, well-being, and mindset are at the heart of our conversations because once you change the inside, the outside will begin to change as well.
In our hectic modern world, many of the women I talk to feel stressed, they feel overscheduled, and they feel overwhelmed racing from one meeting to the next, planning this or worrying about that.
My solution is self-care.
I know, I know, you are rolling your eyes and saying I can’t do one more thing but what the world thinks is self-care is just scratching the surface.
I’m inviting you into a deeper understanding of self-care…to have a different perspective…to reconnect with YOU.
I’ve titled this series “Self-care is more than a buzzword. It’s personal.”
And I am delighted to introduce my guest, Nicole Baker.
Nicole Baker is a Coach who helps high achievers ditch perfectionism, cut the hustle and start achieving goals with fun and fulfillment. Having grown up in a family immersed in the personal development world, she has been attending seminars and absorbing personal growth tools her whole life and she has since helped hundreds of perfectionists accomplish goals ranging from starting their own businesses to finishing a half marathon. She has been featured in Authority Magazine, Thrive Global, Voyage Denver, The Self Helpless Podcast and The Mighty plus is the CEO of Life Coach Baker LLC and the host of The Life Coach Baker Podcast.
Here’s a glimpse of our conversation: Nicole, Thank you for coming on the show.
3:25 I noticed that a lot of my clients fell into one of three categories. They all have their own individual struggles, their own individual goals they wanted to go after, but they all have three different types of self-sabotaging habits, and that was one the overachiever, the person who tends to chase success go on the hamster wheel of hustle culture, always looking for the next thing. The next thing, the next thing.
There was a procrastinator, who has these big, beautiful goals, but then gets so overwhelmed by them that says, you know, scrolling through TikTok is so much easier today. I'm just going to do that.
And then there's the people pleaser, like you mentioned, the person who tries to be perfect for everyone else. So, they put themselves on the backburner, which, especially touching on self-care, whoa, buddy, do those to go so hand in hand.
8:20 I grew up in a family very heavily immersed in the personal development world. And I feel it important to note, it was a personal development world of the 80s and 90s, which was, go go go achieve your dreams as fast as possible, change your state, be positive, all this kind of stuff, which I think has some good merit to it with some elements of being a human thrown into there.
13:55 I normally phrase it, perfectionism is having this expectation for yourself, an A plus on a report card, for instance and anything short of that isn't enough, is a failure, quote, unquote. Now, we might phrase it a little bit differently. Like for some people, for instance, I see this a lot, in my community. Unless I'm working 24/7, I'm not working hard enough. Or if I end my day with any amount of energy leftover, I didn't leave it all on the table, which means I'm lazy, or it means I don't want it bad enough.
19:10 When I think of self-care, I think of little, teeny tiny two-degree shifts. I don't think self-care is throwing 50 million things into the ring and saying good luck. I think it's adding things, I think it's subtracting things, I think that is something we definitely overlook; asking yourself what is giving me stress in my life and is there a way I can either reduce it, delegate it or automate it so that it's no longer this big of a part of my life.
32:57 One of the biggest things I see in perfectionist is this need to be in control, always. And I noticed this in myself, about a year ago when I was going through a hard season.
37:22 One of my favorite quotes is by Marie Forleo, and she says, “If what you're doing isn't working, stop doing it harder.” And I was doing it harder. And finally, I was like, okay, like, what if I just go into the polar opposite just to like, really freak out my comfort zone.
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That brings us to the end of this episode! Thanks to Nicole Baker for joining us and I genuinely hope the tips Nicole shared on self-care and perfectionism were beneficial to you. As always, thanks for listening to Exploring the Seasons of Life podcast. I appreciate you.
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