In this episode of The Fabulist, Joel Pilger sits down with three powerhouse studio founders—Shawna Schultz (Mass FX Media & 38th and Post), Katwo Puertollano (rezonate), and Samantha Louise (Versus)—to explore what happens after you’ve built a successful studio. 

What do seasoned founders build once the studio is humming? How does leadership evolve from momentum to meaning? And how do these founders define success on their own terms? 

This conversation dives into the second act of creative entrepreneurship—from launching new ventures to leading quietly behind the scenes—and offers a rare glimpse at how these visionary women are redefining purpose, growth, and legacy. 

What does it take to create a truly transformational experience—not just an event? In this special episode, Joel Pilger sits down with Paradiso co-founders Hector Ayuso and Marko Pfann to unpack the heart, hustle, and human connection behind this one-of-a-kind gathering in Mérida, Mexico.

Born from a dream—and a desire to break all the traditional “conference” rules—Paradiso set out to eliminate the divide between speaker and audience, to prioritize intimacy over scale, and to create the kind of creative connection that changes lives.

Together, Hector and Marko reflect on the inspiration behind Paradiso, the challenges they overcame to make it happen, and why staying small and intentional is the key to its magic. From school trip nostalgia to raw artistic expression, this episode captures the spirit of a creative community redefining what’s possible when we gather.

And yes… next year is already in motion.

🎟️ Explore Paradiso 2026:
https://paradisofest.com/

📣 View the 2026 Announcement on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DH3erFeu778/

The best title sequences don’t just introduce a film or TV show—they set the tone, create anticipation, and often become iconic in their own right. In this episode, I connect with Aaron Becker and Seth Kleinberg, the co-founders of Filmograph, a studio that has shaped some of Hollywood’s most memorable visual storytelling moments.

From their early days at Prologue to building a boutique studio that works directly with top filmmakers, Aaron and Seth reveal the real story of Filmograph’s rise, the lessons they’ve learned, and how they’ve adapted in an industry that’s constantly evolving.

We explore:
- The big break that put them on the map
- Their philosophy on creative longevity and staying independent
- The evolution of title design and branding in Hollywood
- Why they’ve avoided the pitfalls that took down once-dominant studios
- Their bold decision to shut down for six weeks every year (and why clients respect it)

If you’ve ever dreamed of running a creative studio—or just want an inside look at the world of motion design—this episode is a masterclass in building a sustainable, creative business.

In this special episode of The Fabulist, Jared Yeater, a former Managing Director at The Mill, joins Ryan Summers, John LePore, and Joel Pilger to break down the shocking closure of The Mill and what it signals for the future of motion design, VFX, and creative studios. 

Discussion Points:​

Was The Mill’s collapse inevitable?

How much was due to industry shifts vs. mismanagement?

What does this mean for the future of motion design and visual effects?

How should studios rethink their business models to avoid the same fate?

The next wave: Why ingenuity, adaptability, and a new definition of “motion design” matter more than ever

This is Part 4 in our End of the Beginning of Motion Design series, featuring candid insights from industry leaders navigating a rapidly changing creative landscape. 

Listen now—because what happens next is up to us.

What does it really take to build lasting relationships in the creative industry? In this episode ofThe Fabulist, Joel Pilger sits down with Tony Kadillak, Executive Producer of Business Strategy & Sales at Versus, to unpack the art of business development beyond just sales. From the origins of the Assembly networking event to the nuances of client relationships, Tony shares his philosophy on fostering trust, navigating industry shifts, and why every client interaction is an opportunity to build something bigger. Whether you're a studio owner, a creative leader, or just looking to level up your business game, this conversation is packed with insight, candor, and maybe even a few hot takes.

Tune in as we go beyond transactions and talk about what really sustains a career in this ever-evolving industry.

Welcome to Season 3 of The Fabulist, the podcast for creative studios mastering the art of business. Powered by Coupe Studios, host Joel Pilger travels the world to gather insights from studio leaders who are not just participating in the industry—but reinventing it.

In this episode, we’re diving into the creative powerhouse of Turin, Italy, where two distinct yet interconnected studios, Illo and Algo, are blending art, data, and motion into bold, boundary-pushing work. Joining us are Ilenia Notarangelo, founder and creative director of Illo, and Luca Gonnelli, co-founder and CEO of Algo.

Together, they share their journey of running two studios under one roof, crafting ownable visual languages, and maintaining a healthy work-life balance—all while navigating the evolving demands of brands, AI disruption, and the ever-changing creative landscape.

Tune in as we explore:
🎨 How Illo infuses optimism and playfulness into motion design
📊 Why Algo focuses on data visualization and automation for scalable content
🌍 The importance of fostering an international yet distinctly Italian studio culture
⏳ Why they prioritize quality of life over hustle culture—including their sacred aperitivo tradition 🍷
💡 How creative studios can stand out in an era of algorithm-driven content

If you run a studio and want to master the art of business, visit joelpilger.com to apply for FORUM, a private network of the world’s leading studios.

🎧 Listen now and get inspired by Illo & Algo’s unique approach to creativity, strategy, and the business of design!

In this episode of The Fabulist, Joel Pilger dives deep with Derek Dienner, founder of Make Films and producer of the upcoming feature film Brave the Dark. Derek shares his remarkable journey from running a thriving commercial production company to navigating the highs and lows of bringing a heartfelt narrative drama to life.

Discover how Derek balances the dual challenges of managing a creative business and pursuing his dream of making impactful films. From securing $4 million in funding during the chaos of COVID, to signing a distribution deal with Angel Studios for a theatrical release in over 2,500 theaters, Derek’s story is one of resilience, vision, and entrepreneurial grit.

If you've ever wondered what it takes to transition from producing commercials to creating feature films—or how to persevere when the odds seem insurmountable—this is the episode for you. Hear about the challenges of the entertainment industry, the power of belief and grit, and the importance of staying connected to your creative roots. 

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Tune in now to explore the intersection of creativity and commerce, and to celebrate the journey of reinventing the future of storytelling.

In this thought-provoking episode of the Fabulist Podcast, host Joel Pilger brings together a panel of creative industry leaders—Simon Dixon of DixonBaxi, Mitch Monson of Sibling Rivalry, and Carson Hood of BGSTR—for an authentic and inspiring conversation on the evolving role of personal and professional reputation in the creative world.

The discussion explores:

• ​The transition from competition to collaboration and the democratization of the creative industry.
• ​The importance of fostering trust and authenticity in relationships with clients, collaborators, and teams.
• ​How personal values and actions can positively impact company culture, reputation, and success.
• ​Practical advice for creatives on how to show up authentically, add value, and find their unique lane in the industry.

Join Joel and his guests as they candidly share their journeys, insights, and aspirations for the future of creativity. Whether you're a seasoned professional or an aspiring leader, this episode offers a fresh perspective on thriving in the creative industry.

Listen now. Be inspired. Let’s redefine leadership as simply being valuable.

In this episode, I sit down with Joe Nash to unpack the complexities of running a creative studio in today's ever-evolving market.

Joe shares wisdom from his time working with studios of all sizes and insights from building Brand Tracker, a tool connecting incredible creative work to the people who need it most. If you’ve ever felt the push and pull of staying relevant in a fast-changing industry, this conversation is for you.

Listen now to explore what it takes to innovate, adapt, and thrive in the creative world!

In this episode of The Fabulist, I – your host Joel Pilger – am joined by industry veteran Justin Cone at BUCK to tackle some of the biggest shifts currently shaping the motion design world.

We dive into the rise of in-housing, as brands increasingly bring creative work in-house. This trend, while challenging for studios reliant on agency work, is creating fresh opportunities for those ready to build direct, meaningful relationships with brands.

We also get into the role of AI in creative workflows. Justin and I discuss how AI can open up creative possibilities, but only when it’s used to enhance—not replace—human insight and craft. Justin shares his thoughts on where AI adds value and where studios should draw the line to ensure their work remains both high-quality and human-centered.

Lastly, we explore the idea of “ephemeralization” — doing more with less—and how staying curious, adaptable, and plugged into the industry can help studios navigate these ongoing shifts. This is a must-listen for anyone in the creative industry looking to stay ahead in a rapidly changing landscape.