I believe this all started in 2004, when I was asked to write an article. You'll hear all about it in the introduction. I can't remember just how I found our guest. Kate Lynns has, as you will hear, an impressive resume. I'm really quite surprised that I can't seem to find her online today. I always like knowing what happened to my guests from years past. Regardless of her status today, I think you will find this an extraordinary conversation. She makes a great case opposing GW Bush's policy of Faith Based Initiatives.

Listen. And hey, if you do run into Kate, let her know I'm looking for her. Theme music "Nigal."